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Permalink Reply by Daniel Earl Willard on
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I have been looking over your data and have some questions about his lodge membership details and also concerning when the support payments first started. Where were these disbursements sent and to whom? A bank perhaps? Same question for the burial expenses. To a local undertaker perhaps. Was he still employed as a deputy sheriff in 1882 in Beaumont when George Jr. was born?
What became of Rosa's two siblings, William and Baily Lewis, that were living with them in 1880?
I am going to check your tree on Ancestry and see if I can figure out some of these datails. You may be closer than you think.
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Permalink Reply by Judy Grundy on
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The Grand Lodge in Corsicana does not have all the early ledgers for the Texas lodges. I do not know when he joined the Oddfellows but believe it was in Beaumont.
I have talked to a member of the Oddfellow Lodge where we live and he stated that the nearest lodge where they lived would give him the money and note on their ledger. I don't know how they were reimbursed but think the support payment was cash. George received his first payment between Jan.-June of 1884 in the amount of 49.45 from the Beaumont lodge. The ledgers are only posted every six months.
After June of 1884 George and family moved back to La Grange. Some time between July- Dec. 1884 he died. His widow received the sum of 30.00 for burial expense. This is recorded on the Beaumont lodge's ledger. I have been told he would have been buried in an Odfellows cemetery or in a cemetery where they owned plots. Still looking in Fayette Co. TX for that. In 1885 his widow Rosa Perkins received 15.15 in relief.
I believe that George D. Perkins died of T.B. In a letter my great uncle (the eldest son) states he was told that his father moved frequently because of his health. He had been told his father was an accountant which I don't believe. My great uncle was 7 when his father died.
Why T.B.? George's eldest sister was married to a man who contracted TB in prison during the Civil War.Supposedly George, his mother, and his youngest sister lived with them in LA during Reconstruction. Not only did the sister's husband die from TB but also two of her sons did.
I do not know what happened to either William or Bailey Lewis. William died in 1885 and Bailey in 1899.
Really appreciate you looking at my family.
Judy
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Permalink Reply by Dori Emerson Lloyd on
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Judy, have you tried the newspapers? They may have info about why your George Perkins was ill, or perhaps an accident that was reported. Or an obituary--maybe you have tried these, but you didn't mention it, so... good luck!
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I haven't found any information about George Dallas Perkins in any newspapers. I went to the Fayette Co. Library and spent time at microfilmed newspapers and never found anything. Sometimes the old families give family documents to the library and I looked there too, nothing.
Next will be spend time at County Clerk's Office and look for the County Commissioner's meeting minutes. Since he was employeed as a deputy maybe if there are records for 1880 I might find something.
thanks
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Judy -- I don't know if this adds anything new to your research, but Rice's founding president, Edgar Odell Lovett, wrote a heartfelt tribute about your grandfather after his death.
It's shown in a recent blog post by Rice's Centennial historian, Melissa Kean -- https://ricehistorycorner.com/2016/09/14/george-dallas-perkins-i-sh... -- and also on pp 1& 2 of the May 11, 1944, edition of the Rice student newspaper, the Thresher: https://scholarship.rice.edu/bitstream/handle/1911/65733/thr1944051....
-- Mike Ross (San Jose, Calif.)
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Thank you Mike. I really appreciate the information. My grandfather died before I was born but I understand he was a special person.
Three years ago someone called from Rice asking questions about him but I was walking out the door to go to my daughter's funeral. I had often wondered if the article had been written but did not know how to find out.
Too much confusion at that time to get details.
Thank you again for sending this
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Thanks so much for introducing yourself on the Rice History Corner blog. It will be great for the larger Rice community to learn more about what a wonderful person your grandfather was.
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Hello Everyone,
I am very new to this I guess. I started "playing" with genealogy when I was very young but didn't get very far and find myself drawn to it once again. I am looking for information on my father's side first and have started with his dad's family because it seems to be the most viable primary route. At this point I haven't found much and feel that there is a monumental brick wall standing in my way. I know that we are Ortegas, from the Chihuahua area of Mexico. My grandfather's name is Oscar, he has one brother named John. My grandfather has told me that his father is from Mexico and he was born there as well but didn't specify if it was Chihuahua the city or the state. His father is named Juan Ortega and he met my great-grandmother in Douglass Arizona (per my grandpa) sometime after WWI. Her name before marriage was Adela Marrios however her last name brings up no information at all. My grandpa said that his mother was Pima heritage. He also told stories of someone being connected to Pancho Villa and that Linda Rondstadt is a distant cousin. I have found some names that are connected to Villa and Rondstadt however I have missing verified links starting with Juan Ortega marrying an Adela Marrios so I am unable to go forward to verify anything else. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Also do all sites and census records demand payment?
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Marilyn, familysearch.org is free, you might want to get an account though. And some of the records on there are 3rd party and they do charge a fee like findmypast. Ancestry does have some free stuff on there website.
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Permalink Reply by April Lee Payne on
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You could try FamilySearch.org . It's run by the LDS Church (Mormon), but you can create a tree for free. I finally got over to the Family Research Library in my town, and that's one of the things they were all set to have me to, first. From there you should get little icons on the person they've found a record for. Also, you can do a search that includes their own site, Ancestry.com, Rootsweb and one more, I think. And, no, you don't have to pay for the records you find. I would, however, make a print-out of it, and even store it on your computer, too.
It's best to work backwards. Death, marriage, baptism, birth. Start with yourself, then go to your parents, then their parents, and so on and so forth. Try to leave no stone unturned. Organize the source, analyze it — primary (was present for the event), secondary (got the information from someone else). Not everyone who helps fill out the death information knows the information first-hand. Census records can be tricky, too. Depending on how long the census-taker had to complete the task, it wasn't uncommon to ask children, or even neighbors for information on the family that wasn't home at the time of their visit. :O Shocking, I know. So, that is usually classified as a secondary source. Regard it more as a 'hint'. Also, look at the neighbors. People tend to move together and if you run into a roadblock (brick wall) sometimes perusing the neighbors for names you've seen with your relative before, can give you a clue to where your ancestor went.
Good luck and happy hunting!
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Thank you. I try. :)
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