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Mary Hellman

Female

Fairview, OR

United States

Profile Information:

What surnames are you interested in researching?: Brickley, Davis, Fahl, Grange, Hanson, Hellman, Hunt, Ireland, Lyon, Merritt, Nelson, Quivey, Rivers,Tallman,
What countries and other locations are you interested in researching?: Sweden , Iowa
What is your level of genealogy knowledge?: Intermediate Family History Researcher
Do you have a genealogy website or blog or belong to a Genealogy Society?: www.mjhellman.blogspot.com

Comment Wall:

Larry Bowles

Mary...If you could provide the information about the name of the small child they brought with them from Sweden, it might be possible to find his birthplace in Sweden through his World War I draft card. I have access to these. It's important to have the child's name and if you know it, where he was living in 1920.

Jul 17, 2009
Larry Bowles

Mary: I understand about their first born being female. Being born in Malmo means searching over 5 parishes as that is a good sized city. However, her mother, Mathilda Larson born in Grenart on 9/21/1867 is another matter. The problem is that there is NO parish in Sweden by the name of Grenart. There is a Gnarp and a Genarp. Genarp is in Malmohus County so I went there and searched within the city limits of Genarp but no Larson family like yours was there. There are over 50 farms comprising the parish of Genarp taking up over 290 pages of data. I searched 34 pages making up the internal city of Genarp only. Before I search the remaining 256 pages,

Jul 20, 2009
Larry Bowles

I want to make sure you think Genarp is the right parish. Please let me know.

Jul 20, 2009
Larry Bowles

All I can say is that my Swedish book lists all the parishes in Sweden and there's no Grenart...just the ones I listed. I thought if I could find Mathilda's birth, I could track her to her marriage to Ole and then find his birthplace that way. It doesn't surprise me, however, that the obituary may have misspelled the parish. I've seen that time and time again. If anything turns up, I'll let you know.

Jul 20, 2009
Leif R Unosson

Ola Nilsson and Mathilda was both born in Genarp. They had a daughter
Maria born 1888 in Genarp too, I think she can be the Mary Elisabeth you told me about.

Jul 22, 2009
Larry Bowles

Probably not. If you were given a confirmation that she was definitely born in Genarp...you should have been given the exact birth date. From Genarp, it is possible to follow the family through history toward the present until she marries. I can look at her birth record and get the names of the parents confirmed as well as their dates of birth and the towns.

Jul 22, 2009
Leif R Unosson

Ola Nilsson, Born 4-17-1862, Genarp. 100012.45.60300 GID
Mathilda Larsson, born 9-21-1867, Genarp 1352.13.43000 GID
Maria, born 8-31-1888, Genarp 100012.145.19300 GID
Family moved from Genarp to Skurup, Skurup 1352.13.43000 GID
I hope this will help you come further, If you need more assistants don’t hesitate to contact me.
Good luck.

Jul 23, 2009
Larry Bowles

Sure...I would have to go to the site he's using and print out the images. Then I can scan them as jpeg or pdf files and send them to you as attachments. The site he is using is called Genlines...a Swedish site that contains all the parish records of Sweden. It's expensive to subscribe to but most professionals who concentrate on Sweden use it. I'll check the pages he lists (that's the number and GID) and print them out for you and send as e-mail attachments. You'll have to give me your regular e-mail. You can do that by going to http://www.hsjgs.org That is my website and I am the webmaster. At the bottom of the page is a flying dove carrying mail. Click on that and send your e-mail address...it's a direct line to me.

Jul 23, 2009
Leif R Unosson

Larry is right about Genline, you can find Olas and Mathildas parents on those lists.
My printer/scanner is out of order for the moment, but it's nice with co operation, thaks to Larry.
Genline use to have discounts if you look at their web site.
http://www.genline.com/

Jul 23, 2009
Leif R Unosson

If you need any further help, just let me know.
Good luck.

Jul 24, 2009
Steven L Bonnell

Mary,

Read your comment in the "I am a Geneaholic" group about your
".. and had a photo taken of me right where they were standing ..".

Several years ago I was at a Bridge Dedication for a local resident...
short story is
see this: http://www.kbsb.com/wolf/
then see this: http://www.kbsb.com/wolf/P6006_nephew_a.jpg

"If you look at the background of the black & white photograph
of Lt. Wolf on the home page,
you will notice a sloping stone wall.
Here is that same wall, almost 50 years later,
with Lt. Michael Frederick Wolf's nephew, Michael James Wolf
at about the same spot."

Turns out that Lt. Wolf is my '3rd cousin once removed' !

Jul 24, 2009
Larry Bowles

Mary: Genarp 1352.13.43000 is not the birth record of Mathilda. It is a moving in account of the family in Skurup Parish. On it, it will show her birthdate and place of birth but not the actual birth record. There is no birth record for 1867 in Genarp. It is possible to get her parents by finding her on the parish clerical survey records for Genarp for 1867-1870 or so. To do that, one would have to search the entire Genarp parish clerical survey records until you find the family. It would take quite a while to do that. I can work on it but it would take time to find the family among all the farms and locations associated with Genarp Parish.

Jul 26, 2009
Larry Bowles

Guess I have to eat my words. I did a little more research on Malmøhus County and found Genarp birth records for 1867 after all. Mathilda Larsson born Sept. 21, 1867 at Klagstorp in Genarp Parish to Nils Larsson and Bengta Nilsdotter. Nils and Bengta had: Anders - born 4-17-1854, Sven - born 4-15-1856, Marie - born 2-17-1858, Karna - born 1-30-1860, Lars - born 6-3-1862, Anna - born 3-7-1865 and then Mathilda. Nils Larsson and Bengta Nilsdotter were married Feb. 10, 1854 in Genarp. Nils born on October 29, 1831 and Bengta born Nov. 6, 1832..both in Genarp. When I have time, I'll try and get you a couple of images and send via e-mail.

Jul 27, 2009