Hi Bob. I saw your msg on the DNA group about your FTDNA results suggesting Jewish ancestry.

In general, most Europeans will have some Ashkenazi matches at the 12-marker level -- those matches typically represent very ancient connections and can usually be chalked up to "we're all related if we go back far enough." However, people who really do have Jewish ancestry will continue to match Jewish people when comparing more markers, especially at the 37- and 67-marker levels. People who don't have Jewish ancestry will see the Ashkenazi matches fall off their match list at the higher marker levels.

If you've only tested 12 or 25 markers, I strongly recommend upgrading to at least 37 markers to refine and clarify your matches.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have further questions about this.

Elise

Addendum... I thought your surname sounded familiar... you're in the E-M35 project, which I help manage :-)

So now I see that you've tested 67 markers and taken the deep-clade test. You're in subclade E1b1b1a2. This subclade is primarily non-Jewish, although there is a handful of Jewish people in it.

As I suspected, your Ashkenazi matches at 12 markers are just coincidence. The 12-marker modal (most common) values for people in E1b1b1a2 is nearly identical to the 12-marker modal for a Jewish cluster in E1b1b1c1. If you go to your Y-DNA Haplotree page, then click on the My Matches tab at the top, you will see that at least half your Ashkenazi matches are in haplogroup E1b1b1c1. Those that are listed as just E1b1b1 probably just haven't had the deep-clade test, but I would expect almost all of them to be E1b1b1c1 as well.

E1b1b1a2 and E1b1b1c1 are separated by tens of thousands of years, so the 12-marker match between them is just coincidence. We call it "convergence" when the marker values from two different haplogroups or subclades are so similar to each other.

For more detailed discussion about your subclade, E1b1b1a2, please visit the E-M35 project's discussion forum at http://community.haplozone.net

Elise

Bob -

Welcome to the England group.

You have an interesting one-name study - have you thought of joining the Guild of One-Name studies? It has a journal, a very active forum, and a Wiki on one-name study searches. www.one-name.org

http://ia341015.us.archive.org/2/items/winbornefamily00winb/winbornefamily00winb.pdf

page 23: Henry Winborne. 23

three years, as a {)rivate in Capt. Josepli Walker's Com-
pany, of Hertford County, and of tlic Seventh llegiment
of North Cai'olina's Continental Troops. See State
IJcc. of iS'. C, Vol. 16, page llSa. His record must
have been an honorable one, for 1 tind in the State rec-
ords in the office of Secretary of State, at Raleigh, that
on the 7th day of April, lT>i(i, tiie State of North Caro-
lina granted to him, ■"Henrv Winhiu'iic, a [)rivate in the
Continental line," ;JMi aercs of land in this State.

In examining the «dd records of deeds and other
papers, I tind that his name, wlien written by others, is
spelt in various ways, viz., Winboiaie, Winburn, Win-
l)orn, and Winlnitiru. lint in every case where he
signed his name, he wroit- it llciinj Winborne. In
Capt. Walker's conijiany, .lohn Wiidxirnc, of Hertford
County, was Lieutenant. He died during the war, so
the State records show. I have been unable to learn
what was the blood connection between John and
Henry. I regTct tliat w(> have no records to inform us.


Interested in joining the SAR or SR?

I could help with lineage and documentation. You need a sponsor at least at the moment, and help with genealogy, so there's a recruitment award and depending on the response I got through GenealogyWise so far, I could have the first level (5- I have 2 so far). I'll need information and you probably wouldn't want to post it on here, so e-mail me at arbregen at gmail dot com . I will be away July 31-August 6.

You could contact the AZ Society of the SAR and locate a chapter. I would like to sponsor you, however, unless you already know another SAR member. Do you have names and locations (and dates?) to search for your ancestry back to Henry &/or John? I have some Census access and can get the rest at a public library. It would start by building a case and filling out an SAR application. I can make one in Word for you. Then we would have to mail it for signatures after final printing.

Great. I look forward to that e-mail.

Hi Bob. I'm not sure if anybody has answered your request on the American Revolution War Board or not.

The DAR has a WINBORNE, HENRY listed.

Service: NORTH CAROLINA Rank: PRIVATE
Birth: (CIRCA) 1720 NANSEMOND CO VIRGINIA
Death: (POST) 1790 HERTFORD CO NORTH CAROLINA

There is no John.

I hope this helps.

~Maya~

Bob,

Your Ellen Johnston is found in 1900 on the Alma Township, Crawford Co, AR census. She is shown as age 18 b. 7/1881 and Hannah is shown as age 3.

Page 19 (in ancestry.com) taken 6/4/1900

166-174 (name shown w/alt of James F Johnston)
James T Johnston age 45 b. 8/1854 MS m. 24 yrs Parents: GA & Unknwn
Mary O age 43 b. 8/1856 MS 11 born/9 living Parents: GA GA
Peter age 21 b. 1/1879 MS
ELLEN age 18 b. 7/1881 MS
Rena age 17 b. 12/1882 MS
Allice age 15 b. 8/1884 TX
Frank age 14 b. 5/1886 TX
John age 11 b. 12/1888 AR
Andrew age 10 b. 12/1891 AR
Hannah age 3 b. 10/1896 AR

1880 Carroll Co, MS census taken 6/22/1880

Pg 13 (Pg 10 in ancestry.com)

111-112
James F JohnSON age 27 b. MS Parents: GA MS
Mary O age 23 b. MS Parents: GA GA
Addie age 3 b. MS (Marr or Died bef 1900?)
Sallie age 2 b. MS (Marr or Died bef 1900?)
Peter age 5/12 b. Jany

1870 Carroll Co, MS census shows 2 possibles for your James Johnston
In both cases, the surname is shown as JohnSON, without the T

One household is that of :
William Johnson age 44 b. 1825-26 VA His wife is only 27 so could not be James' mother His son is shown as age 16 b. 1853-54

The other family is a better "fit" for your James, since the census was taken in June (before James' birthday), he should be 15 and there is a 15 yr old James JohnSON living with James Johnson age 57 b. 1812-13 NC and wife Falla age 45 b. 1824-25 AL. Therein lies your problem...the birth state of his parents do not match up with either of these older Johnson/Johnston's. In 1880 & 1900 he stated his father was born in GA

BUT...I did find James & Mary O's marriage records. Mississippi Marriages, 1776-1935 shows James F JohnSON m. Mary O Littleton on 8/24/1876 in Carroll Co, MS. Mary is listed on the 1870 Carroll Co, MS census Page 13 & 14, hh# 83-83 living in the home of Anderson Littleton age 50 b. 1819-20 GA & Adaline age 50 b. 1819-20 GA. She has an 8 yr old brother named Charles, also in the household.

In 1860, Anderson Littleton, wife and a lot more children, including Mary O & Charles, are on the 1860 Attala Co, MS Census. If you would like the additional family info, from this census feel free to email me direct at texastwin827@yahoo.com and I will forward the info to you.

Hope this helps!