Jim, I lost your email address. I would like to request the transcript of the Mennonite chat from Sunday evening. My email address is mccormack44@mchsi.com

Long story short; wife and I shopping, she meets an old classmate and introduces me. Friend stares at me and said "Gee, that is convenient," Never have figured out what she was talking about ???????????????? :-)

Sorry I was called away from the Chat before I could say bye. My bad. I do know about Bro Angonius he is mentioned frequently in Sangmeisters diaries. He sounds like one of the truly pious monks. I spent this afternoon with Annette K. Burgert who wrote "Palatine origions of some Pennsylvania pioneers" and a book about the Ephrata Cloister.

I went to the site (about the Kimmel family) you posted in the PA Chat tonight; I have bookmarked it, so that I can recheck the information for use in my genealogy/family history.
Thank you for the tip.
Sue

Jim.... I'm so sorry that I haven't been back to you soon. I had computer problems this summer and lost my messages and my list of contacts. I also couldn't recall the name of this site until this morning when I decided to do a serious search and found it. I will take a look at our Avery connection and get back to you.

Sorry I'm just now responding. I haven't been on here in a while. I'm not familiar with a Chris Spangler/Spengler in my particular line. But most of my Spanglers are from PA and NC. I'll double check my records to see if I can find him anywhere in there and get back to you.

Sounds interesting! I hope I can help you find what you are looking for. The next time I go to my history center to research I'll be sure to add that name to my list!

Hi Jim---Sorry it took me so long to respond---still not used to getting around this site. I have a Matthias Snook in my line, but my direct line comes via John who I've tracked to Vinton Co., Ohio in the early 1800 tax rolls. But I still haven't determined which Snook line he came from. I'm pretty sure they were in New Jersey and then Allegany Co., MD before moving west to Ohio and then Iowa in the 1830s.

yes was on the chat today.

Look under the Groups and didn't see anything listed under Wolford, am I not looking in the right place?

My Kleckner (originally Gloeckner from Switzerland) goes back to Jacob Gloeckner in 1665. Your names are not fimiliar to me but I have not yet charted all the descendents in the Kleckner line. My family is from Lehigh Valley PA, specifically Catasauqua, Northampton and Klecknersville. I will do some more research and let you know if I find your family.

Yes, Your John was a brother to my Johan Nicholas and their father was Johan Anton or Anthony. So we are distant cousins.

I did not know that. What is his name? I took a photography course in college and love to take pics too. I would be interested in seeing some of his. My genealogy research all began because of a Kleckner relative, Henry, who was married to Sarah Brocklehurst. The family story was that she was Irish or her mother was and I have been trying for 3 years to find out her mother's maiden name. Her father was Levi Brocklehurst. Have you come across any of those names?

I found more info on Moulton A Kleckner from Bethlehem at
www.duke.edu/~hrxwca/mcphotographers.htm
The text is as follows and there is also a photograph:

M.A. Kleckner was a prolific stereophotographer operating in Mauch Chunk from around 1869 until around 1875.� A Moravian and born in Bethlehem, PA, Kleckner began his career by taking photographs and stereoviews in and around the Bethlehem area, later branching out to other neighboring locales, including Mauch Chunk and Panther Valley.� Prior to moving to Mauch Chunk, Kleckner was working out of Allentown. By 1879, Kleckner moved to Atchison, Kansas, continuing to pursue his photography career. Kleckner died circa 1930 in Kansas.

Notice tax stamp required during the 1861-65 period on reverse with initials 'MAK'. One cannot be certain that Kleckner was actually in Bethlehem during this period or whether he was only usually older card stock.





While in Mauch Chunk, his studios were in the Mansion House on Susquehanna Steet. Kleckner photographed a number of very important scenes in and around Mauch Chunk during a pivotal time in the town's transition from a coal terminus to a more tourist oriented location. For example, he chronicled the coal schutes at Mauch Chunk prior, during and after their removal (1872). Kleckner produced several series of stereoviews while in Mauch Chunk and Bethlehem:

Lehigh Valley Views - Mauch Chunk and Vicinity
Views on the Line of the Lehigh Valley RR - A Trip Around the Switch-Back RR
Kleckner's Stereoscopic Gems of the Lehigh and Wyoming Valleys.
Kleckner stereoviews were most often on yellow card mounts, in either regular or cabinet card size. Occasionally, one finds Kleckner using light green card stock popular with photographers in the late 1860s. The quality of his photographs is excellent, showing great clarity and depth.

For a listing of some Kleckner stereoviews (from series listings from card reverses) and examples of his work, click here.

Some Kleckner stereoviews:

Mansion House

Susquehanna Street

Leisenring House

Mauch Chunk

Moulton Kleckner was the son of Peter Kleckner and Caroline George. Peter's father was John (Johan) Nickolas Kleckner who was my ggggg grandfather. Peter was a half brother to my gggg grandfather Casper.

I saw your pictures on flickr - did you read my comment? My grandfather was very interested in Gettysburg and did a lot of research on it. Unfortunately my brother got his things so I never got to look at it. I have not been to Gettysburg since I was a kid. I will have to go again someday. Jim Thorpe is close to me so I could take some pictures there.

Helo uncle Jim :)

Hi Jim,
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, have been having some major computer malfunctions lately. About the Burns side of my family, To be honest with you I don't really know. My Burns roots are still a messy tangle that I am trying to untangle. My father is William Montgomery Burns, the youngest and only surviving child of Nola Sirena (Cantwell) and Jerome Kirby (J.K.) Burns. They were married on 4 Apr 1921 in Hobart, Ok. J.K. left the family in or around 1933-1934, either just before my dad was born (29 Nov 1933) or shortly after. My grandparents subsequently divorced. My dad didn't meet his father until he was in the Marine Corp. around 1951 or 1952, and saw him only the one time. The breaking up of the family left bitter feelings, so when J.K. died on 30 Apr 1966 my father, who had only met him the one time, and my Uncle Gene's wife Lulu, who had never met him, were the only ones who were willing to go and bury him, and they did so in Fresno, where he died. What I do know is that Jerome Kirby Burns was born on 10 Feb 1898, in Paris, Lamar County, Texas. His father was Henry B. Burns, his mother's maiden name may have been Williams, and it is possible that she may have come from Louisianna. He had one brother that I have located so far who's name was Will, or maybe William, and that is pretty much all that I know at this point. I don't know if that is at all helpful to you, if and when I find out more I would be happy to share it with you.

Kristen

About the Darlings;
No, my Darlings are only the second generation of Darlings. My husband's grandfather was born Howard Herman Davidovitch, 5 May 1885 in Wisconsin, he married his first wife with that name, and his first son, was also born with that name. At some point he became involved with Vaudeville and changed Davidovitch to Darling. It was as Howard Herman Darling that he married his second wife Ruth Theresa Kahn, and they had a son Jay Allen, who is my husband's father. So we have no Darlings in Vermont.

Kristen

I posted the image photo on my page looks better if viewed full size

Thanks Jim, I will certainly e-mail him. Again, thanks. Very much appreciated.

Greta

Most of the Carr family settled in Wheeling, West Virginia -- but that is close to Pa and I don't know enough about the extended family of the Carr's. My husband's dad was the first to be born in US -- Bruceton, Pa.

PA family is on my husband's mom's side -- Shriner/Russin, Lambert/Hands

Hi Jim,
My Bartels line came from Martfeld, Germany, a small town between Hannover & Bremen. My great-grandfather came to the US in 1885, at the age of 14, and went to Clarinda, Page County, Iowa where he stayed the rest of his life. I had an historian do some research in the Martfeld Lutheran Church books a few years ago, and he found info on 6 additional generations of my ancestors - but he didn't look into the siblings of my direct line (it probably would have cost too much anyway). I wish I had that info now, because I have not been able to tie into anyone else's research or help anyone tie into my research as a result. I don't think any of our Bartels line ended up in Pennsylvania, but again, I can't be sure of it. Thanks for the note - Kathy in TX.

Hi, JIm. My Great Grandmother Mary Marie Snook 1866-1939 born in Indiana. Her father Charles Scott Snook 1836-1921, born in Ohio. His father Joab Snook, 1794-1868, born in New Jersey. All are buried in Indiana.

Hi Jim, ..no, my family was from Alabama, and I'm not sure where his family lived before that...His name was James Henry Avery.

thanks Jim...just something I found on the internet last nite....cool picture. btw, my email in mikesmom958@aol if you see it come in......

JIM Deb WEST has Bradford kin. Debww0@aol.com and I found this person with WOLFORD here.http://www.genealogywise.com/profile/RayKeltz

Jim a Hematoma is what I had on my chin as infant and radiation was used to remove or I would have bled to death. MOM kept my hands in socks until I was about 3 years old most of the time. I was 6 Mos when Denver Children's hospital worked on me. Blessings and hope he heals quickly.

Sorry to be so slow in answering. As far as I know, Robert Ferguson's father was John but he was married to Margery Gillan who was born in Ireland. This John Ferguson's father was also a John who was married to Jean Rankin. Not sure where they were born, but I do have a marriage date and place in Ireland. As far as I know these Fergusons were not in eastern PA or if they were it was not for very long. Still have a number of empty bits of info to find!!

Mine landed in Connecticut if you like to look at them I posted a blog today about
getting a microfilm on northern Ireland and posted my tree link in it. Susan

here it is
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=suschase&recno=512
just click on.You can book mark. If you do pedigree it is best to leave on table.I think my blog about Ireland Braham's are on genealogywise blogs or I just wasted my time. Darn I won't be home tomorrow . Susan

I just tried it out you hit blogs up at the top genealogywise and then hit all and arrow down to mine about Northern Ireland microfilm I am going to have to get.

Thanks for answering. My question is: Do you know where I can find tax records for Dauphin/Lebanon county ,Pa for years 1788-1790? The years below of tax list I found in a book by Luther Kalker=History of Dauphin co.
I have a possible Hessian soldier who was "farmed out" in Dauphin co in 1777-he deserted then returned to that area. Have found tax records for him 1783, in 1785 he signed a petition re county seat, 1785, 1786,1787 he was on tax lists as "inmate" in Lebanon twp area. Then I lost him. First I thought he was in jail when listed as inmate then after reading found he was a "renter".
Will in future you be doing any classes on Hessians soldiers? His name was Christoph Ackman/Ackerman

Hi Jim, I will follow up on your suggestions=thank you.

If you do the Hessian session it is very interesting with the capture of hundreds of Hessian soldiers =the capture of war of Trenton=-these prisoners were marched south to Va and Pa. Many of the prisoners were "farmed out" to various merchants, iron masters, and farmers. 900 men were captured during the war at Trentonn=the 23 officers were marched to Va and 886 soldiers were sent to Lancaster. Not all of the prisoners were farmed out tho.

There is a good internet site AMREV-HESSIANS-L (rootsweb) that is very informative re Hessians soldiers. Many of the Hessian soldiers deserted and returned to area where they had been farmed out.
If anyone lives in or near Cols, Oh the Palatine Society in cols closed and gave over 5,000 books, articles, etc to the Cols Public lib. The lib has them now catalogued and on the shelves=a treasure of information.
I have been reading about Hessian soldiers for months now and will offer to you any information that I have gathered.

Mr. Butts was my second marriage and it was very short due him getting cancer. He never talked about his genealogy just his immediate family that lived here in Ohio.

Hi Jim, sorry I haven't responded sooner. Thank you for getting in touch with George on my Goodwins. He was kind enough to reply.

Again, thank you, Gret.

Hi Jim,
Miles Coon husband of Irena Avery was from Manlius, Onondaga County, NY. They were probably married there.

Hey Jim,

Those Wheeler names don't sound familiar to me. My husbands family comes from Borden Springs, AL. His dad's side and his mother's side. My mother's mother was Buney Mae Avery from SC.

Tammy Mellard Wheeler

Hi Jim:

My Avery's hail mainly from the Niagara CO, NY area & they married into my Williams line. I have a Francelia or Rebecca Avery, who married Philip Samuel Williams in the Newfane area. I haven't had much luck finding Rebecca's parent's, but after looking at some census records and Rootsweb, I'm thinking Rebecca's father may be Daniel Avery. I'd have to do a little more research to be sure. I have heard Donna's name before, is she related to Lockwood Smith and any of his descendants?
Kim

Hey Jim:

Sorry I took so long in getting back to you, I've been down with a migraine headache that lasted for 2 days. I'm just now getting back to speed again.
To answer your question about my Daniel Avery having any connection to your Daniel Avery, I don't have an answer to that. I checked my files & also did some checking on Rootsweb, and now I'm totally confused!
I looked at several Avery databases on the Rootsweb site, & some say that John Avery & Dorcas unk, are Rebecca Francelia's parents, & others say that Daniel Avery & unk Lewis were her parents. Rebecca Avery was born abt 1842.
I even went online to Heritage Quest & looked through the book, "The Groton Avery Clan", & no luck. I did find that John Avery was descended from Roger Avery.
I also know that from looking at census records for Niagara County, there were several Avery families living there.

If I come accross those names, I will let you know. My Wheeler's are from Cherokee/Cleburne Co., AL.

Tammy Mellard Wheeler

Hey Jim,

Probably a different Starner family. Moms family was in and around Bethlehem and Monroe C ounty.

Hi Jim,
Sorry, I don't think we have a Higgins match. The Higgins I am researching was born in Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT 18 Jun 1770. He married Nancy Pomeroy 8 Dec 1795 in Westhampton, Hampshire Co., MA. He and Nancy settled in Pompey, NY by 1803. We believe he and Nancy moved to Erie Co.,NY (perhaps Buffalo) by the early 1820s.

Nancy

None of which I am aware. I'm still looking for a couple of "lost" Higgins males from Geneseo, though, so I will keep your question in mind.

thank you. I am new to this room .

No problem, Jim. I hoped someone who knew Washington Co. would be there, but no luck. I discovered the Western PA group last night and will try there.

Jim, thanks for the information. I have traced the Howes back to John Wesley Howe, b 1802 KY. I will contact George Howe and see if any of his branches went to KY.

Hi Jim, I'm sorry I haven't been on this site for quite some time. Busy doing other research! To answer your question, my Snooks are from New Jersey. After the Rev. War, Philip Snook moved west to Philadelphia then on to Scioto County, Ohio. I believe he was in Ohio by 1810.

Jim - I sent you an email with a Wohlford census from Kansas. The father is on the census and he is from Penn.

Thank you for the good info. I will look in to the chat.

I'm back in NY, but I haven't done anymore research. I've been trying to book some housekeeping Jobs so I can make a living.