I hope you have turned on the e-mail alert that you've received a message. I just accidentally found yours last week but you may not have come back to see my answer.
Which of Francis and Mary's children was your ancestor? I was able to find out a lot about Albert because he moved to the U.S. but I don't know much about any of the others.
My great-grandfather, Angus (1810-1898) was the older brother of John "Bushy" Matheson. Angus and his family moved to Delaware County, Iowa, in 1840, where my grandfather was born in 1847.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to seem impatient. I thought you might be away or have some other reason you hadn't found my reply, but I thought I'd try again in case there was some problem with its showing up on the website.
I know the Pritchards intermarried a lot with the Mathesons. It was a small community and families were large, so they would come in contact with each other. I have a little of the Pritchard history. I don't have a copy of the Selkirk Settlers genealogy book but I have copies of a few sections, such as the Pritchards and all of the Mathesons. I do not have the chapter on the Murrays.
So you are quoting the references which call my great-grandfather Angus's brother Old Bushy and his son J.P., I guess, Young Bushy. Angus, John and others were the children of Alexander and Ann Matheson. Alex also had a brother named Angus, and there was another, perhaps unrelated, Matheson family in the Red River Settlement, so there were a lot of Mathesons and their descendants.
Albert was your mother's uncle, brother of Ernest. I first knew of him by a letter my cousin received back in 1961 from Ann Henderson, a settlement researcher, who said Albert lived in Minneapolis. They had actually been there since the census of 1930. He was a clergyman all over the coutry, with one son born in New York, another in Illinois, and two daughters in Michigan, before they lived in Cedar Rapids.
Thank you for the info on Alberta. I could not find her married name. She must have died first, as I found Leonard's obit and it only listed Margaret and Francis as his survivors. It gave Margaret's married name, Stott, but I could not find her husband's name. Those clues might help me. Your clue that their uncle George lived in Longview Washington, which is not far from where I live, was interesting but didn't lead me anywhere. I thought the author of your family tree might have done that in about the 1920s if they thought Rev. Albert was in Cedar Rapids. They were there from sometime after 1911 when Alberta was born to about 1929 when she graduated from high school. Then they were in Minneapolis for the rest of their lives. Margaret also lived in Minneapolis when Leonard died, his obit says. But I could not find George in the 1920 or 1930 census. Maybe the tree was from later, and the person who wrote it did not know where Albert was; they might have lost track of him if they were in Canada.
Francis lived to be 101, dying in 2008 in San Francisco. Leonard died in 2001 in Minneapolis. He had been president of the Soo line from 1961 until his retirement at age 65 in 1978. It was formed in 1961 from the merger of the Duluth, South Shore and Altantic railroad with the Wisconsin Central. I found things that said he was formerly president of each of those. If not both, I'd guess the Duluth line was more probable, as the family lived in Minneapolis. All were small local carriers connecting Minnesota with Ontario, mostly. Both of those obits are at legacy.com; just put in the name and the decade they died. I found out more about Leonard just by Googling his name and "Soo Line." Margaret might have died in 2002 in Minneapolis. I can't be sure of that, but she was the only Margaret Stott on the death index of the right age and from Minneapolis. I did not find an obit.
I live just south of Portland, Oregon, in Tualatin. A long time ago I lived briefly in St. Helens, Oregon, which is close to Longview WA.
I found Robert T. Stott, b. 1881 in England, d. 1962 in Hennepin Co., MN. He had been married once or twice before, and had several children born in North Dakota and South Dakota. Mary Alice Stott was born in 1950 in MN and died in 2004.
Henry Lee Bateman was born a twin in 1913 and died in 2005 in Florida. Alberta was born in 1911 and died in 2000 in Florida. Their children were Barbara Lee, born in 1938 in Hennepin Co., MN, and Lewis Lee b. 1941 in Hennepin Co.
Margaret Murray Stott wrote regularly to my mother (Margaret Lindsay Morgan...her mother was a Matheson) until Mum's death in 1993. Then, she wrote to me until the letters stopped coming. We met Margaret and Mary in 1989 in Minneapolis, along with Leonard and Virginia, their daughter Carol and her daughter. We also met Lee Bateman and his second wife, Sunny, and their two kids at that time. Do you have any contact with Francis's daughter, Kathleen, in San Francisco? Fran always corresponded with my mum and then he and I corresponded until his death.
To Nadine: Francis Murray (the elder one) married Mary Matheson. She was the older sister of Alexander Matheson (my great grandfather) and Samuel Pritchard Matheson (the Archbishop). When Francis Murray the younger one was turning 80 (I think), Kathleen made a family history book. Unfortunately, Alexander Matheson was skipped (left off the family tree) but his brother, the Archbishop, was included. There is just so much I would love to share with you. Your grandpa Ernist, was such a dear cousin to us. He always came to our place for dinners, we took him for drives, etc. etc. He always talked about his grandchildren. I am 56 1/2 by the way.
Nadine, I am reading your old posts to Edith Matheson. Lee Bateman started out as a school teacher and then decided he wanted to go into medicine. His first wife left him because she didn't want to be married to a doctor. That is what we were told in 1989 when we met him.
I am excited to have found this missing part of the family link.
Your grandpa's brother, Lawrence, and his wife May, lived on a farm about 2 hours north of Winnipeg. at Ashern. They always seemed to be very poor. We took Ernist up there a few times...once a summer...to visit with his brother.
Nadine, you have no idea how glad I am to have found you. When I checked out this site last evening, and saw your name, and your Murray questions and comments, I could have cried with joy. I thought to myself, "This is Ernist's granddaughter!" It is sad that you have lost touch with all the Murrays. Fran always had such good memories of spending time on the farm in Middlechurch (just north of Winnipeg). Yes, I still live in Winnipeg. I am going to give you my email address so that we can communicate that way. cathiemorgan7@gmail.com If you are interested in coming to Manitoba/Winnipeg, I would be more than happy to show you the site of the old Murray farm, your grandpa's grave, and share many stories of your grandpa.
Edith Matheson
Hi,
I hope you have turned on the e-mail alert that you've received a message. I just accidentally found yours last week but you may not have come back to see my answer.
Which of Francis and Mary's children was your ancestor? I was able to find out a lot about Albert because he moved to the U.S. but I don't know much about any of the others.
My great-grandfather, Angus (1810-1898) was the older brother of John "Bushy" Matheson. Angus and his family moved to Delaware County, Iowa, in 1840, where my grandfather was born in 1847.
I'd love to hear from you!
Edith
Mar 23, 2011
Edith Matheson
Hi, Nadine,
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to seem impatient. I thought you might be away or have some other reason you hadn't found my reply, but I thought I'd try again in case there was some problem with its showing up on the website.
I know the Pritchards intermarried a lot with the Mathesons. It was a small community and families were large, so they would come in contact with each other. I have a little of the Pritchard history. I don't have a copy of the Selkirk Settlers genealogy book but I have copies of a few sections, such as the Pritchards and all of the Mathesons. I do not have the chapter on the Murrays.
So you are quoting the references which call my great-grandfather Angus's brother Old Bushy and his son J.P., I guess, Young Bushy. Angus, John and others were the children of Alexander and Ann Matheson. Alex also had a brother named Angus, and there was another, perhaps unrelated, Matheson family in the Red River Settlement, so there were a lot of Mathesons and their descendants.
Albert was your mother's uncle, brother of Ernest. I first knew of him by a letter my cousin received back in 1961 from Ann Henderson, a settlement researcher, who said Albert lived in Minneapolis. They had actually been there since the census of 1930. He was a clergyman all over the coutry, with one son born in New York, another in Illinois, and two daughters in Michigan, before they lived in Cedar Rapids.
Mar 23, 2011
Edith Matheson
Hi, Nadine,
Thank you for the info on Alberta. I could not find her married name. She must have died first, as I found Leonard's obit and it only listed Margaret and Francis as his survivors. It gave Margaret's married name, Stott, but I could not find her husband's name. Those clues might help me. Your clue that their uncle George lived in Longview Washington, which is not far from where I live, was interesting but didn't lead me anywhere. I thought the author of your family tree might have done that in about the 1920s if they thought Rev. Albert was in Cedar Rapids. They were there from sometime after 1911 when Alberta was born to about 1929 when she graduated from high school. Then they were in Minneapolis for the rest of their lives. Margaret also lived in Minneapolis when Leonard died, his obit says. But I could not find George in the 1920 or 1930 census. Maybe the tree was from later, and the person who wrote it did not know where Albert was; they might have lost track of him if they were in Canada.
Francis lived to be 101, dying in 2008 in San Francisco. Leonard died in 2001 in Minneapolis. He had been president of the Soo line from 1961 until his retirement at age 65 in 1978. It was formed in 1961 from the merger of the Duluth, South Shore and Altantic railroad with the Wisconsin Central. I found things that said he was formerly president of each of those. If not both, I'd guess the Duluth line was more probable, as the family lived in Minneapolis. All were small local carriers connecting Minnesota with Ontario, mostly. Both of those obits are at legacy.com; just put in the name and the decade they died. I found out more about Leonard just by Googling his name and "Soo Line." Margaret might have died in 2002 in Minneapolis. I can't be sure of that, but she was the only Margaret Stott on the death index of the right age and from Minneapolis. I did not find an obit.
I hope you are feeling better.
Edith
Mar 25, 2011
Edith Matheson
Hi,
I live just south of Portland, Oregon, in Tualatin. A long time ago I lived briefly in St. Helens, Oregon, which is close to Longview WA.
I found Robert T. Stott, b. 1881 in England, d. 1962 in Hennepin Co., MN. He had been married once or twice before, and had several children born in North Dakota and South Dakota. Mary Alice Stott was born in 1950 in MN and died in 2004.
Henry Lee Bateman was born a twin in 1913 and died in 2005 in Florida. Alberta was born in 1911 and died in 2000 in Florida. Their children were Barbara Lee, born in 1938 in Hennepin Co., MN, and Lewis Lee b. 1941 in Hennepin Co.
Mar 25, 2011
Cathie Morgan
To Edith and Nadine,
Margaret Murray Stott wrote regularly to my mother (Margaret Lindsay Morgan...her mother was a Matheson) until Mum's death in 1993. Then, she wrote to me until the letters stopped coming. We met Margaret and Mary in 1989 in Minneapolis, along with Leonard and Virginia, their daughter Carol and her daughter. We also met Lee Bateman and his second wife, Sunny, and their two kids at that time. Do you have any contact with Francis's daughter, Kathleen, in San Francisco? Fran always corresponded with my mum and then he and I corresponded until his death.
May 22, 2011
Cathie Morgan
May 22, 2011
Cathie Morgan
Nadine, I am reading your old posts to Edith Matheson. Lee Bateman started out as a school teacher and then decided he wanted to go into medicine. His first wife left him because she didn't want to be married to a doctor. That is what we were told in 1989 when we met him.
I am excited to have found this missing part of the family link.
Your grandpa's brother, Lawrence, and his wife May, lived on a farm about 2 hours north of Winnipeg. at Ashern. They always seemed to be very poor. We took Ernist up there a few times...once a summer...to visit with his brother.
May 22, 2011
Cathie Morgan
May 22, 2011