And another - you wrote: "Gov. John Winthrop's daughter wed Rev. Samuel Dudley of Exeter, N.H., daughter Ann Dudley wed Edward Hiklton, Sr., Esq., son Dudley Hilton wed Mercy Hall, daughter Elizabeth Hilton wed Christopher Robinson of Exeter, N,H,,daughter Elizabeth Robinson wed Maj. Barnabas Palmer, Sr., daughter Margaret 'Molly' Palmer wed LtCol David Copp, Sr., of Wakefield/Dover, N.H., lawyer son David Copp, Jr., gratuate of Exeter Academy wed 15 years old Margaret "Polly" Watson, they fled his Portsmouth, N.H., gambling debts at night. In 1805 he was murdered in a New Orleans gambling house. Daughter Adelince Cecelia Copp, born N,.H., wed New Orleans lawer, Battle of New Orleans Adj. Lt. John Nixon who owned the Nixon House Hotel, Biloxi; he died Biloxi 1849. Daughter Jane Ann Nixon wed LtCol Robert Wm. James and had Capt. Harry Copp James, harbormaster, Biloxi, wed Lelia Ogden Malone, who had Ruth Irma James who wed Edward Yonge Wootten of Wilmington, N.C., my grandparents. Jim Miller, Southport, N.C. A U.S. District judge recently impeached in U.S. Congress for alledgedly takeing oil well bribes (with U.S. Attorney?) to through drug cases, is also a Copp/Nixon descendant. I have a paralegal degree, burtrarely gamble nor drink. I think generations of legal ability, and alcohol and gambling disability can be inherited; as too, generations of skilled musicians. As Mr. Levi of California didn't once say: "I just guess make'n these tough workman's britches is, just in my genes?""

Thanks for the info on Gov. Winthrop; I thought he only had sons - but I descend from his niece and DIL Elizabeth Fones, whose mother was Anne Winthrop. My line is by her second husband Robert Feake.

 

Hi James !!

 WOW !!! What a fascinating genealogy you have ! We have similar ancestry. In the families of all 4 grandparents, there is racial mixture involving all types of situations ranging from rape to common law marriages. Via a circumstantial ILLIGITIMATE case a 4 greats grandpa Edwin Jackson (1782-1855) qualified as an ancestor for the Society of the War of 1812. According to oral history given by an aunt, Edwins son Lilburn Jackson (1818-1893), a white magistrate in Adams, Tennessee, fathered a black son Alex Jackson (1848-1876). Though there is no document verifying the father/son relationship, my aunts oral statement can be given credence by the fact that Alex named his son Lilburn Jackson (1873-1936) after the elder Lilburn Jackson.. This was accepted by the Society for the War of 1812. I would love to see your WHOLE family tree. Are you in ancestry..com. I am. My user name is Alvincollins24. Isn't genealogy fun?!?!?

                                                                                           ALVIN

  Hello James, on two of your previous posts [2010 & 2011?] you mentioned German Frederick Fisher and his two marriages, [Rosanna & Mary Ann/Ann McBride] later post mentioning Fishers from the Netherlands. My Brown cousin's FTDNA matching DNA results show Fishers DNA linked to my Brown family, also McBrides are DNA linked to my Brown family. My cousin Arthur Fisher has traced his Fisher line back to John Fisher, b. 1872, Mauch Chunk, Carbon Co., PA.].

 

  Two on my Brown related ancestors filed [rejected] Guion Mller applications, claiming their Cherokee blood came from their Fisher side of Robert Fisher Brown Sr. [1759-1840]. Robert Fisher's mother's side of the family, her Fisher father was [supposedly] part Cherokee. I haven't found any information to verify this claim. I did find out why Robert [who first used Fisher as his surname, then changed from Fisher to Brown] may have been living with the Cherokee early in his life [allies against the colonists?].

 

  Robert's father was British soldier [under Capt. Johnston] James Brown. James is shown in British records as having been born in 1724, Schoonhoven, Zuid Holland, Netherlands. James maried Catharine/Katherine Fisher/Fischer in 1749 [same place as their marriage & her birth]. She was born in 1727 [may have died in 1776?]. My line of Browns are in  brownsociety.org  family [DNA] group #33. I believe the British ship Katherine came to the colonies on was the "Samuel", in 1732, port of daparture Rotterdam, and port of destination, Philadelphia.

 

  Do you know anything more about this Dutch line of Fishers/Fischers to America? I may have a little Lock[e] information which is possibly connected to your Lockes? My grandmother was Nellie Lock, who married Marshall Marion Spencer, Catawba/Burke counties area of North Carolina, not far from Rowan Co. Nancy Ann Miller [same area] is also related to me, through my Spencers.

 

  Can you tell m anything more about the Duch Fishers of the late 1600's & early 1700's who came to the colonies

 

 

 

  Marshall A. Spencer

 

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