Australian Genealogists

A group for genealogists downunder - with roots from all over the world
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  • Geniaus

    Still in Salt Lake City. The Rootstech conference with 3,000 attendees ended this afternoon. It was a most amazing experience that I would recommend to anyone. I am staying on for a few days to do research at the Family History Library. In just two hours last night I found 8 obituaries and anothe branch of my Irish family there.
  • Co Ordinator

    carol goto the "offers of help "page above

    Wayne

  • Michael Dennis Farmer

    Greetings.  I'm Michael Farmer in Baileys Harbor, Wisconsin, USA delving into the roots of the FARMER family which originated in England and came to the US in 1616, and later to Massachusetts and Philadelphia.  I know there are Farmers Down Under as well and would like to incorporate them in the research.  Too much has been lost...we're all related.  I can help also with AWALT, PAGE, VAN POOL, VICKREY, JACKSON and FLOYD.  My Parents were John Wesley FARMER and Dorothy Jayne AWALT.  Dad's folks were FARMER and VAN POOL, Mom's were AWALT and PAGE.
  • Geniaus

    Michael, Welcome.

    How generous of you to offer assistance. I hope you make some meaningful connections through the group.

  • BOB MAY

    For those researching in the late 1800s etc don't forget the Destitute Assylm in Adelaide. I just got a set if fische ffrom Gould on them and found a young lady I have been having trouble making timefromes fit.

    It gave me name/age/born/where living on admission/ confirmed that this was not her first admission with a reference to the previous and the aledged father of the child born at that time Source and date of entry.

    The year in the reference to the previous admision is the same as that of the first daughter who's father is acknowledged as the man she was married to but it could change the date of the fostering out of a male child with no birth record who we have resonable evidence to sugest that she was his mother. Because she was living much further south than where she got married and the husband had vanished of the radar suggests that she may no have returned to that area but only went to where she was when the second daughter began her appearance.

    On the entry was thes two words - ENCEINTE PUTATIVE (refering to the father)

    my Thasourus check comes up with.

    ENCEINTE = pregnant        PUTATIVE = alleged assumed acknowledge

    It is not a lot of information but it does confirm part of the family story about her. Another little piece of the puzzle fits.

  • Geniaus

    Welcome to our latest, member, Pamela.

    There are lots of helpful people in this group so, please ask some questions.

  • Penelope Bell

    This is from the Christchurch City Library blog (just before the quake):"If you are interested in your own past, Find My Past AU offers access to a collection of historical records covering Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea and the Pacific Islands.

    This fantastic resource is  available at all our libraries. Come in and have a play and explore our many family history resources!" 

    This gives some idea of the great support Christchurch family historians have received from our libraries. Of course, they are now closed but fortunately staff and users are all safe as the buildings were able to be evacuated immediately. 

  • Co Ordinator

    Hi Pen, 'tis good to hear that the spirit is still with-in the ranks my thoughts are with you all as you make this massive recovery from such devitation.

    So come on every one give them some support from this site.

    Wayne

  • Carol Ann

    Lovely to hear the supportive comments for our fellow New Zealanders after such tragedy in their hometown.  As with the QLD/NSW/VIC floods, most of the people on my radar in SA have willingly supported and will continue to do so - after all disaster can happen anywhere and anytime to any of us - lets hope that we seen the very last of it for a long time though to give everyone hope for the future.  All the best to all of those people affected by this years happenings.

     

    I have registered my interest for the   http://www.congress2012.org.au thanks to the SA Expo last year:)

     

    cheers Carol

  • Penelope Bell

    The 2011 census was due to be taken in March but is now cancelled. This has happened only twice before: during the Great Depression and in World War II. However, NZ, like Australia, has not kept data on individual households from its censuses in the past so future family historians will have to continue to use other sources of information.
  • Geniaus

    Great to see some activity on the list even though it has to be in the wake of such a tragic event.

     

  • Geniaus

    I have started a new blog, Genimates, http://genimates.blogspot.com, in which I post profilesw of people in genealogy.

    I am thrilled that one of this lists most active and helpfule members, The Co-Ordinator, responded to my request to submit his profile.

    Meet him at http://genimates.blogspot.com/2011/02/wayne-cheeseman-co-ordinator....

    If you have any suggestions for people to be profiled please let me know - I'd like to have a good representation of those people who don't have a big presence on the web as well as some of the big name bloggers, speakers.

     

  • Dance Skeletons

    Great idea for a blog, Geniaus.

    I really enjoyed reading about The Co-Ordinator and look forward to many more profiles.

  • Carol Ann

    Great exposure for Australian Genealists Geniaus.

     

    Aus genealogists presence on the web will surely bring more numbers to this fascinating, educative and absorbing hobby (which for many of us becomes, or maybe as in my case, always was a lifelong passion to know about the family and the culture of the times - even before I was old enough to know it existed and had a title:))

     

  • Albertus Lang

    Hello Pamela ,hope you have a nice time on this great site ,lots of help from all no matter how hard they always try to help out ,Good searching ,cheers Bertjl.
  • Co Ordinator

    I feel fine now I have my avatar back

    and thank you for the comments about the blog I've made the move so lets see how many others will follow.

    friends are what it's all about and this is one way of creating many via this blog.

    So come on lets make it happen

     

    Wayne

  • Penelope Bell

    My apologies if someone has already drawn attention to this. It's very moving as well as being of interest to family historians

    http://www.facebook.com/lostdiggers.

  • Co Ordinator

    Hey Pen you beat me by 8mins I was busy reading about these fabulous finds i France. This is sure to make closure for quite a few families who lost their loved ones who gallantly fort for their country.

    And I may add these as well

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/diggers-at-play-frozen-in-time-20110226...

    and the follow up on Ch 7

    http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunday-night

    Wayne

  • Geniaus

    Group member Liz Pidgeon has been profiled on GeniMates. Meet her here:

    http://genimates.blogspot.com/2011/03/liz-pidgeon.html

  • Co Ordinator

    Well done Liz

    Great profile

    lets keep it rolling

  • Carol Ann

    Am enjoying reading the profiles on the blog Geniaus -  keep up the great work:)

  • Geniaus

    I've another member's profile ready to post on Friday but it's not just for GW people - I've asked a few from all over the place.
  • Penelope Bell

    I've just read the 3 profiles on Genimates with great enjoyment. I particularly like the responses to the personal philosophy prompt: they reflect what great people we have in the genealogy community.
  • Carmel M Reynen

    Shauna I have located his parents, his father died a couple of years after he did and his mother in 1970 in Ballarat, it could just take finding the death notice in the courier and have posted this as such.
  • Carmel M Reynen

    I did add a comment that it probably be located in thier own papers but not sure if they read the comments. Will need to go through the 1970's newspaper to see if the death can be found.
  • Co Ordinator

    I've been having an issue with my palemoon browser so I have reverted to Chrome and hear I am.

    Whith ref: to Carmel & Shauna's post.

    I went on a wide scale search and came up with all this:

     

    Apparently he enlisted in Malaya, which made it hard to find him via aust sources.

    As per here: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1104406?searchTerm=Alexande...=

    http://www.roll-of-honour.org.uk/Escapes/html/escape_database_0.htm

    then scroll to the bottom and click the Aust Awards Tribunal if you want to read all about it.

    http://www.roll-of-honour.org.uk/Cemeteries/Thanbyuzayat_War_Cemetery/

    then click “roll of honor” -  then click “b” – then “be” – then scroll down to the Australian section.

    And he is here:

    http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=5...

    if you feel you want to watch this very moving video then click the address, be rest assured you will have a very large lump in your throat after watching it,this is from the book written by Richard Kandler in march 2010. that link is here:

    http://www.fepow-community.org.uk/

    Wayne

     

     

  • Co Ordinator

     My Palemoon issues have been resolved so Im happy

     

  • Co Ordinator

    We seem to be a bit quiet of late

    I thought I'd get some reaction to my posting.

     

    But But

  • Geniaus

    We have been quiet but it hasn't been quiet at Genimates http://www.genimates.blogspot.com where there have been a few more genealogists' profiles posted.
  • Co Ordinator

    thought I'd better make a break in the long time no responding but have been busy of late doing Lancashire transcribing along with Norfolk at LDS  and West-States "Utah since state Hood".

    All very challenging and interesting to say the least.

    But I have learnt to find sites that help in cyfering the writing (scribble) that they used in those days gone buy, by doing that has made it that much easier and you don't sit and try and work it out for ages.

     

    My browser problem has been fixed so they are cruising along fine.

    Well that's my queue to bow out and as I always say H.A.N.D.

    Wayne

  • Geniaus

    Thanks, Wayne for your ongoing interest and participation.. It's great when others post comments - I could post every day but don't want to appear as if I am using this group as a self-promotion tool.

    But ....if you have a few spare moments you might want to check out the latest GeniMates profiles http://www.genimates.blogspot.com

  • Co Ordinator

    Boy we are on a slow mo better keep it up n running

    Geniaus good to see that Genimates is building up in numbers.

    Wayne

  • Co Ordinator

    Welcome to our page Dan

     

    Wayne

  • Co Ordinator

    Just quickly has anyone been here to check out the new release of ww 2:

    http://aso.gov.au/titles/documentaries/australia-in-france-part-one...

    Wayne

  • Co Ordinator

    A warm welcome to Anne to our page

     

    Wayne

  • Anne Stafford

    Thank you for the welcome

     

    anne

  • Co Ordinator

    And to you as well John, welcome to this page.

    We seem to be in a go slow mode but I'm sure there will be some requests for information from here.

    Wayne

  • Carol Ann

    Does anyone have any search tips or special links for the situation where a birth probably wasn't registered in the 1860's?  I've searched long before the date and afterwards as well with no results.

  • Co Ordinator

    That will be a tough one to answer

    Anyone have any clues to go on with?

    You just never know

     

    Wayne

  • Jan Westcott

    Do know that you have the correct spelling, or have you tried that?
  • John Patten

    For births that went unregistered there's some hope if it was on a known farm or station and their records survived. Those unregistered in cities I can't offer advice on, except to say that the indexes aren't perfect, and it might be worthwhile checking the original church records for anything that might have slipped through the cracks.
  • Carmel M Reynen

    where and who? How are you looking? put the least amount of details in the search, such as if there are two forenames only use one, this is common, as sometimes the child was born at home and parents would need to get to someone to register. then did the registrar send them in as he/she should have? also the indexes are not perfect so could have been missed in the indexing. also I have one where children were not registered as parents were trying to avoid immunisation. There are many reasons. 

    if in Australia send the details through, often extra eyes will find it. 

  • Co Ordinator

    great that got us moving

     

    Wayne

  • BOB MAY

    Carol

    have you search under the mothers maiden name?

  • Carol Ann

    Wow, just home from Mother's Day brekky and checked my emails to see all of these genealogywise ones in my inbox - thanks everyone for the responses:)

     

    My missing relie is Margaret Meynell born 1862/63 Sunderland UK according to the 1871 census onwards.  There is only one Margaret Meynell 1863 Durham UK which I saw very early on and very wrongly assumed it was her and I'd deal with it later! 

     

    I recently purchased the certificate and was somewhat stunned to found out it wasn't my Margaret after all. 

     

    Also somewhere around this era, her father John Died (bap 1824 Durham) and his death has yet to be found. 

     

    Gosh I've collected so much information on the family but none of it is helping at all....

     

    I sent away for Margaret's marriage certificate to see who she named as her father and it's John Meynell deceased. 

     

    I sent away for her brother James, bith certificate  (born Birkenhead Cheshire)  - and again Dad is named as John Meynell.

     

    1871 census Mum is suddenly a widow but with a new child in the family ..Margaret.  One interesting thing I noticed was that in one census she is Margaret Ann....her marriage certificate has Margaret Ann but the Ann is crossed through by the Clergy of the time.

     

    John 1824 married Sarah Dowey in Newcastle on Tyne 1850.  They travelled down to  Hartlepool where baby Thomas Vaux Meynell was born 1850 (all middle name Vaux are accounted for - I mention this because you may come across John Vaux Meynell and he is a nephew of my John).

     

    In the 1851 Census, my John, his wife Sarah and baby Thomas are in Northfleet Kent (spelt Maham or Malam depending on which site is used). 

    Second son John is born Northfleet Kent 1852. 

    Third son James is born Birkenhead Cheshire 1855 and sadly they lose Thomas Vaux Meynell prior to James death. 

     

    1861 Census mum is home in Sunderland with John and James (Dad is a seaman and not home). 

    Have tried as many name variations as I can think of.  I know that mum Sarah nee Dowey had a sister Margaret but she is in the census with her sibblings in Newcastle. 

     

    Have been searching for John's (1824) death for a long long time and recently felt I was possibly too close to the situation now and missing something vital in my searching so raised this with others which has resulted in me now searching for Margarets birth as well hahahaha 

     

    Sarah was supposedly born Northumberland or London although I haven't purchased her birth certificate yet as I haven't pinpointed where she was actually born (and too busy with John and Margaret:)). 

     

    My mind has gone through the meanderings of was Sarah so grief stricken at the loss of her husband that she overlooked the registration of her daughters birth and her husbands death: were the children really Johns (1824) and as Sarah remarried to William Henderson in 1874, was my John a fly by nighter because Sarah was always at home with the children alone at Census time (this last bit changed my thinking when he was found in the 1851 Census that didn't show up in a variable name search:)).

     

    From memory I found one Margaret Dowey birth but not being familiar with the areas, it seemed too far away from Newcastle for Sarah to maybe have stayed at the home of her parents.

     

    Do we have a Master Genealogist amongst us or certainly one with more experience than I have? 

     

    Would love some more tips if you can think of any, but really appreciate the great response so far - thank you all:)

     

     

  • Shelley

    Hello, I'm Shelley. It took me a while, but I've finally joined up here. I've been researching my family on and off for over 20 years which makes it sound like I should have a lot more done than I have! My ancestors all arrived in or made their way to Victoria from various locations in the UK. I'm looking forward to participating in the group.
  • Co Ordinator

    Welcome Shelly to our page as you can see we have had visitors helping Carol in her quest.

    Plus I would like to say to all the Mum's here, " I trust that you all had a wonderful day with your family and that you were pampered on hand and foot"

     

    Wayne

  • garryr

    New to the group. Currently living in Canberra but hoping to buy at the NSW south coast next week. Interest in genealogy ranges around the island of Pantelleria (home of the Raffaeles) and England (the home of the Parnells). My partner (Liz) and I have done work on our antecedents and, on Macs, use Reunion 9.
  • Co Ordinator

    Another welcome heck this getting busy now

    This is what we want

    Welcome Garry to out page

     

    Wayne

  • Co Ordinator

    Welcome Maree

    Im sure you will be called upon especially the India hunting.

    Wayne