Serena, what other info do you have on Hans that would narrow down the time frame? Are we talking 20th century or something earlier? Did you find him a US census? Any one of them would give you an age from which you can approximate a birth year. Was he always living in the same town in all the censuses you have available--if so, that would probably be a good starting point for a death certificate. If he never lived in the US, did his children? Then, figure he was 20 or so years older than his youngest child.
Looking for William Mueller (Miller) born abt 1838 and immigrated abt 1865 born "Prussia" married Josepha Vorst born abt 1833 children Peter, William, Anna, Elizabeth, Hubbard and John.
Karl & Charlotte Hermann - 1820-1855 - Kreuznach, Rheinpreußen
Looking for marriage and birth information on this family from Kreuznach, Rheinpreußen, and their ancestors. I have searched Ancestry and FamilySearch without luck.
Karl and Charlotte Hermann (her surname unknown) were born about 1820 and married about 1845. They children were: Elizabeth born 1846, Harriet born 1849, and William born 1851. Charlotte and the 3 children without Karl emigrated from Kreuznach, Rheinpreußen to Philadelphia in 1854. I do not know what happened to Karl, whether he died, they divorced, or he emigrated at a different time. Charlotte remarried Lorenz Armbruster (who emigrated in 1855 from Ottersweier) in Philadelphia in 1857.
I would appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks.
My Depke family is from Meitze, now Lower Saxony. I am also interested in Bremer and Kreuzburg of that region and Siefermann of Baden. I visited my Depke cousins in Meitze the last week of July 2012. Any information would be welcome. Herb Depke, born Danville, Illinois, now of Cary, North Carolina.
Laressa, I looked up Bucher on Ancestry's surname translator, found that's it's German meaning is an inhabitor living near a beech tree. So then I looked up buche--which is German for beech--on http://www.dictionarist.com/. If you go there, enter buche, and then click on the loudspeaker, you can hear it pronounced. It's kind of like boo-kah. I thought Bucher might come from buch, or book, but apparently not.
From your question about how an English speaker would hear it, I assume you're trying to find different possible versions in census and other records. I'd look for Booker and Butcher as well as Bucher, just because of similar but not quite sounds to Bucher. I'd also look for Beech as the name may have been anglicized to its meaning.
It depends if there is an umlaut over the "u" - it also might be related to books. Also, the "ch" is a guttural sound, almost like clearing your throat, not a hard "k". I wouldn't be surprised if an English speaker heard it like "Booher" or "Boocher".
Thanks for everyone's imput. I was looking at an ancestor who had a grandchild whose maiden name was Bucher and wondered if her name could also be spelled Bougher and it sounds like it from Marianne's statement. Thanks again.
I am searching for Hans Christoph Carstens, born in Ebstorf, Germany. He had a son named Heinrich Christoph Carstens born 3-17-1815 in Ebstorf, Germany as well. Hans was married to Anna Magdalena Tiesemann born in 1732 in Germany.
I would like any information on Hans's parents or Anna's parents.
If Anna was born in 1732, and Heinrich Christoph is supposedly her son, she would have been 83 at his birth - not possible. Hans Christoph Carstens could have been anywhere from 20 to 60 when Heinrich was born, making his birth year range about 1755 to 1795.
Annas birth year was not given to me. I have no idea. I put in high year to see what I could find. I have nothing on her birth or dod. It was my guess, sorry
I recently learned that my great, great grandfather, Louis Fischer, was born in Elsenfeld in Unterfranken, Bayern. There does not seem to be many films for that area on FamilySearch. He was born on 8 September 1837 and was not Catholic. Can anyone tell me the name of the Protestant churches near his birthplace or the correct archives to write to? Thank you.
I found out my great great grandfather Joseph (Backus) Backes was born in Prussia and so was his mother and Father , but not sure which part of Prussia yet.
To Barbara Holz Sullivan, if you look at this wikipedia article about Unterfranken, you will see many cities that are in it. That is what you need to do a search of the Family Search microfilms. Try looking at U.S. records to find the correct city (U.S. church records often listed the city of origin).
To Barbara Holz Sullivan, here is info on Elsenfeld from wikipedia, which says the area was "overwhelminlgly Catholic". You probably will have to search neighborhing towns that have Evangelische (Protestant) churches instead.
Thank you, Marianne. I have seen that wikipedia page about Fanconia. I know the town Louis Fischer was born in: Elsenfeld. I would like to learn the name of the protestant parishes in that area. I have searched the FHL catalog for Bayern, Unterfranken, and Miltenberg without success. Elsenfeld is not listed as such in their catalog.
If that link doesn't work, try putting the link for the untranslated site, http://www.elsenfeld.de/gesundheitsozia/kirchen/ , into google translate and set from English to German. The translated version of the URL will look just the same as on the German side, but if you click on the link on the English side, it will take you to the translated version.
In January, I received a list from this forum of a list of churches near Elsenfeld. My researcher in Germany has not been able to find a baptismal record for my ancestor, Louis Fischer, born on 8 Sept 1837. By the time he emigrated in 1853 at the age of 16, he was an orphan. My question is: what other records might there be in Unterfranken for a young boy between birth and the age of 16, from 1837 until 1853? Confirmation? what age for confirmation? Vaccination? Permission to leave? Guardianship papers? My researcher doesn't want to be just searching in a haystack. Thank you for any help you can give.
If the lad was and orphan, one could look for death records for his parents, which would give a time frame. If he was young enough, there might be orphanage records or if he was between say 10 and 16yrs old, there might be apprentice or guild records.
Also re Elsenfeld, how wide a net did your researcher cast around the specific date of 8 Sep 1837? What is your present source for that birth date? I've found baptismal records as much as 2 years different from what U.S. sources have.
Thank you for such prompt answers. My only source for Louis Fischer's birth date is his grave stone, placed later when his remains were moved from the protestant cemetery (where he was buried in 1875) to join his wife's remains in the Catholic cemetery when she died in 1910. My researcher has searched the Catholic records since Elsenfeld's citizens were primarily Catholic. I don't know the names of his parents. He lived with his uncle, not in an orphanage. The birth year of 1837 agrees with his Civil War records, census entries, and year of emigration in 1853. His wife went on to run his business very successfully so I'm fairly certain the family knew his correct birth date. I'm assuming he was Lutheran but so far, the only Fischer baptized in a Lutheran church around that date was a female. But thank you for your suggestions.
@Pete--all the places you list here are German states, not towns, which is what you are going to need to find any records. Have you checked familysearch.org recently. I noted there were 2 Theobalds born in Massweiler, Bayern (German for Bavaria), one in 1814, one in 1815. There are also several Fausts born at different times i in Rieschweiler, Bayern. Do any of the children's names match with other data you have?
Rheinbayern was an area belonging to the kingdom of Bavaria, but was not actually in Bavaria. Bavaria itself is in the southeast corner of Germany, surrounding Munich. Rheinbayern was a strip along the left side of the Rhein River, in the west of Germany, bordering France. It today is part of the state of Rheinland-Palatinate and is just north of Baden-Wuerttemburg. According to the 1880 census, John Lake and his wife Catherine were both born in Baden, so they might have actually been from the border area between the two states.
I am looking for Johann Christian Reising born about 1850 in Tangermünde His wife was Marie Elisabeth Rüss born about 1850 in Tangermünde. They were the parents of Anna Louise Emma Reissing 1877 - 1955. I am also looking for Catherine Wilhelmine Hartmann born Feb 1 1843 (Bramstedt/ Bad Bramstedt) d. 1923 married to Christian Georg Martin Köster, and later Casper Beckmann from Acterwehr I am looking for census records of Tangermünde, and old address books. Tangermünde was flooded last week.
Does anyone know where Weidersrothe is located? I found this information on the pension file for my gggrandfather as the location of his marriage in Germany. When I googled the name nothing came up.
I'm looking for passenger lists from Rotterdam to England or America, early to mid 1700's. I think the parents of the immigrant ancestor I am focused might have died on the voyage from Rotterdam, probably on the ship Aurora, arrival in Philadelphia 1744. The ancestor and two brothers would have been too young to appear on the list. The family name appears several times on the passenger list but the three brothers don't appear to have been direct descendants of those family lines. It is not a common surname and the only other arrival was in 1728 and does not appear to be their ancestor. So, if there is no arrival, there just might be a departure.
Kate, to see the list of what is available for Rotterdam emigration, see http://www.progenealogists.com/germany/articles/gdepart.htm, scroll down to Rotterdam. (Note footnotes don't indicate an end of the page, only an end of a section, so keep going until you hit Rotterdam someways down the page.)
Catherine, Thanks for responding. The progenealogists.com website was one of the places I went to earlier in my search. Just in case I overlooked something I went down their list of resources and did find MacWeathy's List of Names and did some searches in that regard. No luck. I'd also forgotten that the Rotterdam departure lists for the 18th century were lost. So, I go back to the dead end again and nix the idea of an emigration list. The related families appear in the Höchstenbach church records with a notation of "Gone to America" 1744. I've browsed through the handwritten records from the 1720's - 1744 checking to see if "my" names appear as baptisms but no luck so far. I apologize for not being forthright and putting the last name onto the wall but genealogywise is trawled by the search engines and I would rather not give a roadmap to my research until I can publish. If anyone has any ideas of would be willing to help (even by brainstorming) via email, I would be appreciative.
Martin Bowers was born in Darmstadt, Germany in 1805 along with his Wife Elizabeth Stephan; he died in 1845 the same years his wife gave birth to twins Catherine and John Martin Bowers in Mogadore, Portage, Ohio. His other four children were born in Germany and died in Ohio or Illinois. His father may be Johnann Martin Bauer 1769-1838?
Keith, familysearch.org shows a Martinus Andreas Bauer, born Oct 23, 1801, christened Oct 25, 1801 at the Katholischekirche in Oppenheim, Rheinhessen, Darmstadt-Hesse
But, as you can see from that webpage, there are other Bauers spread around different parishes in Darmstadt, although I didn't see another Martin. And, adding Johann Martin Bauer as father did not yield any Martin as a son.
LDS has films for many of the parishes, but without more information, I'm not sure how you'll find Martin. Do you have the church birth records for his German-born children?
Thanks for your information and the link from the Darmstadt area the family was Catholic and I have the baptism records for the children born in Ohio but have not looked for the Bauer the childrens birth records from Germany: Catherine, Margaret, Adam, and Gearhart. I do have the record from Oberöwisheim, Karlsruhe, Baden-Württemberg, Germany. Today I'm new to Genealogy Wise.
I am searching the surname "Kristoffer von Holten" born 1848 from Hannover and "Karolina Schmitt/Roth" born 1843 from Alcasse/Loraine. I will be very happy if there is someone who have any connections to this ancestors.
I am still looking for information on my Great Grandmother, Wilhelmina Nesensohn. b:May 21,1855, in or near Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany. She came to USA sometime from 1872 or 1882. Her Fathers first name was Mathew, according to her death cir. but no mention of her Mother. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Bertil, there are records for several Caroline Schmitt/Schmidts and Caroline Roths on familysearch.org. And there is a Christoff Von Holtum there as well, although he was from Rheinhessen.
Hi Catherine !! I have seen those pesons in familysearch but I am looking for more specifik data for example "what parish in Reinhessen were they born, there is a lot of different data in familysearch, so if you have something about their life before they came to US. I am not familier with german records if there is any.
Bertill, without knowing the individual town in Rheinhessen from whence they came, my suggestion to you is to first get the date range of the period in which they resided there, then find the parishes that made up the area. That will whittle down the possibilities and give you specific records to look at. It's not that easy as many of the records are not in a database and I wouldn't suggest trusting anyone else's transcription of the records. Right now, I'm scouring all the handwritten records for Höchstenbach from 1720 - 1744 for a family name.
Sorry, Bertil, I'm not researching this family so I don't have any specific information beyond what I've searched since you posted your request. But, Rheinhessen and Hannover are not close geographically, so if you're sure Christoffer came from Hannover, it would make more sense to start there if you're going to go through individual church records via microfilm at an LDS family history center. Rheinhessen, however, is closer to Alsace-Lorraine than is Hannover. It looks like this family was in Champaign, Illinois? Have you checked local history books for that area to see if Christoff or one of his children might have had a biographical sketch which might give more info as the birthplace.
My grandfather, Carl Heinrich POKALLUS b. 1858 in Gross Sauerken, EP Germany.
Gross Saurken Today's Name : Surzyk Wielkie County: Mohrunge Province: Ostpreussen (EP as noted) Today's Province: Olsztynskie Location: East 19°45' North 53°4' Description: This village/town is located 4.0 km and 199 degrees from Simnau, which is known today as Szymonowo.
This information was taken from Kartenmeister.
Parents were Heinrich POKALLUS and Carolina BRADLAU (no dates). Would it be possible for anyone to give me direction on where to look for information about where Heinrich & Caroline were born/died/buried? Related names are ZIMMERMANN, OSTIKE, BOTCHER, all from the same area.
Catherine Davis
Oops! That should say the evangelische records for Venne.
Oct 1, 2012
serena clarkson
I am trying to find Hans Christoph Carstens born in Ebstorf, Germany. I have no date of birth or death.
Oct 14, 2012
Catherine Davis
Serena, what other info do you have on Hans that would narrow down the time frame? Are we talking 20th century or something earlier? Did you find him a US census? Any one of them would give you an age from which you can approximate a birth year. Was he always living in the same town in all the censuses you have available--if so, that would probably be a good starting point for a death certificate. If he never lived in the US, did his children? Then, figure he was 20 or so years older than his youngest child.
Oct 14, 2012
Joanne McCarthy Martinez
Looking for William Mueller (Miller) born abt 1838 and immigrated abt 1865 born "Prussia" married Josepha Vorst born abt 1833 children Peter, William, Anna, Elizabeth, Hubbard and John.
Oct 20, 2012
Winston Cochrane
Karl & Charlotte Hermann - 1820-1855 - Kreuznach, Rheinpreußen
Looking for marriage and birth information on this family from Kreuznach, Rheinpreußen, and their ancestors. I have searched Ancestry and FamilySearch without luck.
Karl and Charlotte Hermann (her surname unknown) were born about 1820 and married about 1845. They children were: Elizabeth born 1846, Harriet born 1849, and William born 1851. Charlotte and the 3 children without Karl emigrated from Kreuznach, Rheinpreußen to Philadelphia in 1854. I do not know what happened to Karl, whether he died, they divorced, or he emigrated at a different time. Charlotte remarried Lorenz Armbruster (who emigrated in 1855 from Ottersweier) in Philadelphia in 1857.
I would appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks.
Nov 2, 2012
Catherine Davis
Kathleen--what other info do you have? Where is Martin from, have you found him in censuses that would give you a clue as to when he lived, etc.?
Nov 2, 2012
Herb Depke
My Depke family is from Meitze, now Lower Saxony. I am also interested in Bremer and Kreuzburg of that region and Siefermann of Baden. I visited my Depke cousins in Meitze the last week of July 2012. Any information would be welcome. Herb Depke, born Danville, Illinois, now of Cary, North Carolina.
Nov 3, 2012
Laressa Northrup
Can anyone tell me how the German name Bucher would be pronounced and how an English speaker would hear it?
Nov 22, 2012
Catherine Davis
Laressa, I looked up Bucher on Ancestry's surname translator, found that's it's German meaning is an inhabitor living near a beech tree. So then I looked up buche--which is German for beech--on http://www.dictionarist.com/. If you go there, enter buche, and then click on the loudspeaker, you can hear it pronounced. It's kind of like boo-kah. I thought Bucher might come from buch, or book, but apparently not.
From your question about how an English speaker would hear it, I assume you're trying to find different possible versions in census and other records. I'd look for Booker and Butcher as well as Bucher, just because of similar but not quite sounds to Bucher. I'd also look for Beech as the name may have been anglicized to its meaning.
Nov 23, 2012
Marianne Szabo
It depends if there is an umlaut over the "u" - it also might be related to books. Also, the "ch" is a guttural sound, almost like clearing your throat, not a hard "k". I wouldn't be surprised if an English speaker heard it like "Booher" or "Boocher".
Nov 23, 2012
Laressa Northrup
Thanks for everyone's imput. I was looking at an ancestor who had a grandchild whose maiden name was Bucher and wondered if her name could also be spelled Bougher and it sounds like it from Marianne's statement. Thanks again.
Nov 24, 2012
louise duncalf
does anyone know or has a name GRAMS in their ancestry?
Nov 25, 2012
serena clarkson
I am searching for Hans Christoph Carstens, born in Ebstorf, Germany. He had a son named Heinrich Christoph Carstens born 3-17-1815 in Ebstorf, Germany as well. Hans was married to Anna Magdalena Tiesemann born in 1732 in Germany.
I would like any information on Hans's parents or Anna's parents.
Nov 26, 2012
Marianne Szabo
If Anna was born in 1732, and Heinrich Christoph is supposedly her son, she would have been 83 at his birth - not possible. Hans Christoph Carstens could have been anywhere from 20 to 60 when Heinrich was born, making his birth year range about 1755 to 1795.
Nov 26, 2012
serena clarkson
Annas birth year was not given to me. I have no idea. I put in high year to see what I could find. I have nothing on her birth or dod. It was my guess, sorry
Nov 26, 2012
Barbara Holz Sullivan
I recently learned that my great, great grandfather, Louis Fischer, was born in Elsenfeld in Unterfranken, Bayern. There does not seem to be many films for that area on FamilySearch. He was born on 8 September 1837 and was not Catholic. Can anyone tell me the name of the Protestant churches near his birthplace or the correct archives to write to? Thank you.
Jan 10, 2013
angela kay ezell
I found out my great great grandfather Joseph (Backus) Backes was born in Prussia and so was his mother and Father , but not sure which part of Prussia yet.
Jan 10, 2013
Marianne Szabo
To Barbara Holz Sullivan, if you look at this wikipedia article about Unterfranken, you will see many cities that are in it. That is what you need to do a search of the Family Search microfilms. Try looking at U.S. records to find the correct city (U.S. church records often listed the city of origin).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Franconia
Jan 10, 2013
Marianne Szabo
To Barbara Holz Sullivan, here is info on Elsenfeld from wikipedia, which says the area was "overwhelminlgly Catholic". You probably will have to search neighborhing towns that have Evangelische (Protestant) churches instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsenfeld
Jan 10, 2013
Barbara Holz Sullivan
Thank you, Marianne. I have seen that wikipedia page about Fanconia. I know the town Louis Fischer was born in: Elsenfeld. I would like to learn the name of the protestant parishes in that area. I have searched the FHL catalog for Bayern, Unterfranken, and Miltenberg without success. Elsenfeld is not listed as such in their catalog.
Jan 10, 2013
Catherine Davis
To Barbara Holz Sullivan--list of churches in and near Elsenfeld starts with the Catholic Churches, followed by the Protestant--
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&...
If that link doesn't work, try putting the link for the untranslated site, http://www.elsenfeld.de/gesundheitsozia/kirchen/ , into google translate and set from English to German. The translated version of the URL will look just the same as on the German side, but if you click on the link on the English side, it will take you to the translated version.
Jan 10, 2013
Barbara Holz Sullivan
Thank you Catherine. That's just what I need.
Jan 10, 2013
Michael Boscarato
I am researching my great-grandmother Anna Louise Emma Reising/Reissing
*Sep 3 1877 Tangermuende, Saxony, Anhalt, Germany
+Feb 9 1955 Neumuenster, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
married Nov 12 1899 Tangermuende to Heinrich August Julius Koester
I am looking for an 1880 census for Tangermuende.
Feb 27, 2013
Michael Boscarato
http://www.geneaknowhow.net/in/beeld.htm
Feb 28, 2013
Kate Wagner
Is anyone familiar with the Höchstenbach church records?
May 30, 2013
Barbara Holz Sullivan
In January, I received a list from this forum of a list of churches near Elsenfeld. My researcher in Germany has not been able to find a baptismal record for my ancestor, Louis Fischer, born on 8 Sept 1837. By the time he emigrated in 1853 at the age of 16, he was an orphan. My question is: what other records might there be in Unterfranken for a young boy between birth and the age of 16, from 1837 until 1853? Confirmation? what age for confirmation? Vaccination? Permission to leave? Guardianship papers? My researcher doesn't want to be just searching in a haystack. Thank you for any help you can give.
Jun 2, 2013
Al (alpobc)
Hi Barbara Holz Sullivan,
Re: Elsenfeld
If the lad was and orphan, one could look for death records for his parents, which would give a time frame. If he was young enough, there might be orphanage records or if he was between say 10 and 16yrs old, there might be apprentice or guild records.
Just my guesses though.
Al
Jun 2, 2013
Marianne Szabo
Also re Elsenfeld, how wide a net did your researcher cast around the specific date of 8 Sep 1837? What is your present source for that birth date? I've found baptismal records as much as 2 years different from what U.S. sources have.
Jun 2, 2013
Barbara Holz Sullivan
Thank you for such prompt answers. My only source for Louis Fischer's birth date is his grave stone, placed later when his remains were moved from the protestant cemetery (where he was buried in 1875) to join his wife's remains in the Catholic cemetery when she died in 1910. My researcher has searched the Catholic records since Elsenfeld's citizens were primarily Catholic. I don't know the names of his parents. He lived with his uncle, not in an orphanage. The birth year of 1837 agrees with his Civil War records, census entries, and year of emigration in 1853. His wife went on to run his business very successfully so I'm fairly certain the family knew his correct birth date. I'm assuming he was Lutheran but so far, the only Fischer baptized in a Lutheran church around that date was a female. But thank you for your suggestions.
Jun 2, 2013
Pete Val
Hello,
I am posting again. I am still looking for Lake (Lague), Forschner, Weidenbach, Faust, Kolmel, and Klug from Germany.
Theobald Faust - Bavaria abt 1815
Johannes Klug - Neubronn, abt 1709
Johann Jacob Lake - Rheinbaiern (sp?) 1838
Catherine Forschner - Abunbaiern (sp?) Saxony, June 1844
Johannes Georg Weidenbach - Baden, abt 1744
Johanna Kolmel - Baden, Oct 1819
Thanks
Jun 5, 2013
Catherine Davis
@Pete--all the places you list here are German states, not towns, which is what you are going to need to find any records. Have you checked familysearch.org recently. I noted there were 2 Theobalds born in Massweiler, Bayern (German for Bavaria), one in 1814, one in 1815. There are also several Fausts born at different times i in Rieschweiler, Bayern. Do any of the children's names match with other data you have?
Rheinbayern was an area belonging to the kingdom of Bavaria, but was not actually in Bavaria. Bavaria itself is in the southeast corner of Germany, surrounding Munich. Rheinbayern was a strip along the left side of the Rhein River, in the west of Germany, bordering France. It today is part of the state of Rheinland-Palatinate and is just north of Baden-Wuerttemburg. According to the 1880 census, John Lake and his wife Catherine were both born in Baden, so they might have actually been from the border area between the two states.
Jun 5, 2013
Michael Boscarato
I am looking for Johann Christian Reising born about 1850 in Tangermünde
His wife was Marie Elisabeth Rüss born about 1850 in Tangermünde. They were the parents of Anna Louise Emma Reissing 1877 - 1955.
I am also looking for
Catherine Wilhelmine Hartmann born Feb 1 1843 (Bramstedt/ Bad Bramstedt) d. 1923
married to Christian Georg Martin Köster, and later Casper Beckmann from Acterwehr
I am looking for census records of Tangermünde, and old address books.
Tangermünde was flooded last week.
Jun 21, 2013
Michael Boscarato
http://www.almanachdegotha.org/id305.html
Jun 21, 2013
Al (alpobc)
@Joan Foster
perhaps this is the guy you are looking for on th e1860 Indiana Census. Look to the bottom of the page.
http://archive.org/stream/populationschedu302unit#page/n508/mode/1up
Al
Aug 5, 2013
Al (alpobc)
@Joan Foster
The 1870 Indiana Census for Evansville starts here.
http://archive.org/stream/populationschedu0364unit#page/n37/mode/1up
The 1880 Indiana Census for Evansville starts here.
http://archive.org/stream/10thcensus0317unit#page/n107/mode/1up
Al
Aug 5, 2013
Velma St John
Does anyone know where Weidersrothe is located? I found this information on the pension file for my gggrandfather as the location of his marriage in Germany. When I googled the name nothing came up.
Aug 23, 2013
Kate Wagner
I'm looking for passenger lists from Rotterdam to England or America, early to mid 1700's. I think the parents of the immigrant ancestor I am focused might have died on the voyage from Rotterdam, probably on the ship Aurora, arrival in Philadelphia 1744. The ancestor and two brothers would have been too young to appear on the list. The family name appears several times on the passenger list but the three brothers don't appear to have been direct descendants of those family lines. It is not a common surname and the only other arrival was in 1728 and does not appear to be their ancestor. So, if there is no arrival, there just might be a departure.
Oct 1, 2013
Catherine Davis
Kate, to see the list of what is available for Rotterdam emigration, see http://www.progenealogists.com/germany/articles/gdepart.htm, scroll down to Rotterdam. (Note footnotes don't indicate an end of the page, only an end of a section, so keep going until you hit Rotterdam someways down the page.)
Oct 1, 2013
Kate Wagner
Catherine, Thanks for responding. The progenealogists.com website was one of the places I went to earlier in my search. Just in case I overlooked something I went down their list of resources and did find MacWeathy's List of Names and did some searches in that regard. No luck. I'd also forgotten that the Rotterdam departure lists for the 18th century were lost. So, I go back to the dead end again and nix the idea of an emigration list. The related families appear in the Höchstenbach church records with a notation of "Gone to America" 1744. I've browsed through the handwritten records from the 1720's - 1744 checking to see if "my" names appear as baptisms but no luck so far. I apologize for not being forthright and putting the last name onto the wall but genealogywise is trawled by the search engines and I would rather not give a roadmap to my research until I can publish. If anyone has any ideas of would be willing to help (even by brainstorming) via email, I would be appreciative.
Oct 1, 2013
Keith Burke
Martin Bowers was born in Darmstadt, Germany in 1805 along with his Wife Elizabeth Stephan; he died in 1845 the same years his wife gave birth to twins Catherine and John Martin Bowers in Mogadore, Portage, Ohio. His other four children were born in Germany and died in Ohio or Illinois. His father may be Johnann Martin Bauer 1769-1838?
Oct 3, 2013
Catherine Davis
Keith, familysearch.org shows a Martinus Andreas Bauer, born Oct 23, 1801, christened Oct 25, 1801 at the Katholischekirche in Oppenheim, Rheinhessen, Darmstadt-Hesse
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%....
But, as you can see from that webpage, there are other Bauers spread around different parishes in Darmstadt, although I didn't see another Martin. And, adding Johann Martin Bauer as father did not yield any Martin as a son.
LDS has films for many of the parishes, but without more information, I'm not sure how you'll find Martin. Do you have the church birth records for his German-born children?
Oct 3, 2013
Keith Burke
Catherine,
Thanks for your information and the link from the Darmstadt area the family was Catholic and I have the baptism records for the children born in Ohio but have not looked for the Bauer the childrens birth records from Germany: Catherine, Margaret, Adam, and Gearhart. I do have the record from Oberöwisheim, Karlsruhe, Baden-Württemberg, Germany. Today I'm new to Genealogy Wise.
Oct 3, 2013
Bertil Svensson
I am searching the surname "Kristoffer von Holten" born 1848 from Hannover and "Karolina Schmitt/Roth" born 1843 from Alcasse/Loraine. I will be very happy if there is someone who have any connections to this ancestors.
Oct 4, 2013
Susan Teresa Holmes
I am still looking for information on my Great Grandmother, Wilhelmina Nesensohn. b:May 21,1855, in or near Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany. She came to USA sometime from 1872 or 1882. Her Fathers first name was Mathew, according to her death cir. but no mention of her Mother. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Oct 7, 2013
Catherine Davis
Bertil, there are records for several Caroline Schmitt/Schmidts and Caroline Roths on familysearch.org. And there is a Christoff Von Holtum there as well, although he was from Rheinhessen.
Oct 7, 2013
Bertil Svensson
Hi Catherine !! I have seen those pesons in familysearch but I am looking for more specifik data for example "what parish in Reinhessen were they born, there is a lot of different data in familysearch, so if you have something about their life before they came to US. I am not familier with german records if there is any.
Oct 9, 2013
Kate Wagner
Bertill, without knowing the individual town in Rheinhessen from whence they came, my suggestion to you is to first get the date range of the period in which they resided there, then find the parishes that made up the area. That will whittle down the possibilities and give you specific records to look at. It's not that easy as many of the records are not in a database and I wouldn't suggest trusting anyone else's transcription of the records. Right now, I'm scouring all the handwritten records for Höchstenbach from 1720 - 1744 for a family name.
Oct 9, 2013
Catherine Davis
Sorry, Bertil, I'm not researching this family so I don't have any specific information beyond what I've searched since you posted your request. But, Rheinhessen and Hannover are not close geographically, so if you're sure Christoffer came from Hannover, it would make more sense to start there if you're going to go through individual church records via microfilm at an LDS family history center. Rheinhessen, however, is closer to Alsace-Lorraine than is Hannover. It looks like this family was in Champaign, Illinois? Have you checked local history books for that area to see if Christoff or one of his children might have had a biographical sketch which might give more info as the birthplace.
Oct 9, 2013
Bertil Svensson
Thanks Catherine and Kate for your help. I will try to reach the sources!!
Oct 10, 2013
Carol A. Johnson
My grandfather, Carl Heinrich POKALLUS b. 1858 in Gross Sauerken, EP Germany.
Gross Saurken
Today's Name : Surzyk Wielkie
County: Mohrunge
Province: Ostpreussen (EP as noted)
Today's Province: Olsztynskie
Location: East 19°45'
North 53°4'
Description: This village/town is located 4.0 km and
199 degrees from Simnau, which is known
today as Szymonowo.
This information was taken from Kartenmeister.
Parents were Heinrich POKALLUS and Carolina BRADLAU (no dates). Would it be possible for anyone to give me direction on where to look for information about where Heinrich & Caroline were born/died/buried? Related names are ZIMMERMANN, OSTIKE, BOTCHER, all from the same area.
Oct 25, 2013