French-Canadian Descendants

All French-Canadians are related as they are descended from about 2.500 people. They also have some of the best kept records in the world. Please feel free to post queries, events, pictures, tell stories, etc.
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  • Couture

    Great Podcast for Franco American geneology:

    http://maplestarsandstripes.com
  • Rosemary Couture

    Thanks for the web links William Couture!!!

  • Couture

    Volume 3 of Gail Morin is completely dedicated to Martin Provost and Marie Manitouabeouich the Huron. 396 pages.
  • Couture

    Martin Prevost or Provost arrived in Quebec before 1639.  He settled and farmed near Beauport, Quebec.  He married on 3 November 1644 at Quebec.  Marie-Olivier was the daughter of Roch Manithabewich, a Huron Indian, and adoped daughter of Olivier Letardif.  Together Prevost and Marie had eight children whose descendants continue to the 21st Century.

    Martin Prevost remained in Quebec.  His wife Marie-Oliver died on 10 September 1665 when her youngest child was only 3 months old.  Martin married Marie d'Abancourt two months later. They had no children.  This Marie was the widow of Jean Jolliet and of Godfroy Guillot dit Lavallee.  She died beween 1678 and 1681, and Martin remained unmarried until his death in 1691 at Beauport.  His surviving children and grandchildren all lived near Beauport.  They were farmers, laborers and merchants and appear to have assimilated into the non-Indian culture.  In the seventh generation the Prevost descendants are living in the Oregon Territory, Alberta, and Manitouabeouich, father-in-law of Martin Prevost, include Jean Baptiste Lepine, Stephen Liberty, Louis Provo, Joseph Ualois, and Joseph St. Germain. 

    Introduction of First Metis Families of Quebec, Volume 3

    Martin Prevost and Marie Olivier Sylvestre Manitouabeouich.

    Compiled by Gail Morin

  • Couture

    To Jayne Ireland:

    It would seem that a young 19 year old Catherine Pillat would seem like an orphan girl sent over by the King, but since they were sponsored by the King and were sent to live in a convent until they found a husband, do you think they would have let her marry at Protestant Calvenist?

    Protestant, son of Pierre Charron, master tanner, and Judith Martin.

    First mention in New France 1662

    Meaux, very active city in terms of Protestantism or hundreds of Protestants were massacred during the religious wars.

    1615 the Quebec branch of Pierre Charron converted to Calvinism.
    Pierre Charron was therefore Calvinist.

    BAPTIZED OCTOBER 28 IN PROTESTANT. SOURCE: FILE ORIGIN PRDH

  • Jayne Ireland

    Thank you, William, for these web links. Catherine Pillat's name is indeed on the list of King's Daughters.

    Pierre CHARON was confirmed in the Catholic church of Montreal, May 1664 [source PRDH]. So it would seem he converted in order to continue living in New France.
    But there are also inconsistencies in names and ages. The 1665 marriage certificate lists couple as Pierre CHARRON and Catherine PILLIAT; 1667 Montreal census lists Pierre CARON age 31 and wife Catherine PLATTE age 18 (born abt. 1649); 1681 Longueuil census lists Pierre CHARON age 42 and wife Catherine PILLAR age 30 (born abt 1651). If these are same persons, Catherine would then have been 14-16 years old at marriage.

    Martin Provost and Marie Manitouabeouich: I do not have the book by Gail Morin - is it available online?  Another source for descendants of this couple: Robert Prévost, Témoin de nos commencements. Les Éditions Archonte (available through the Association des Prévost-Provost d'Amérique, http://www.prevost-provost.org

  • Couture

    Gail Morin's works can be purchased at Amazon. I scooped them up because I think it may be a long time before the 2nd print of this book comes around and those dealers only had a handful of copies. 

    Volume three was all I needed to link the Coutures to Marie Olivier Sylvestre Manitouabewich. She is the 3rd great-grandmother of wife of 3rd cousin 8x removed.

    The Coutures are also linked to Madeleine dite Euphrosine Nicolet in numerous instances.   The daughter of the great Jean Nicolet was the maternal grandmother of the husband of our 9th great-grandmother.  Thank you Ancestry.com.

  • James P. LaLone

    Regarding PILLARD see the following podted on the French-Canadian Hedritage Society of Michigan's Facebook site -

    Starting in April 2008, a number of articles have been published in English about Catherine Pillard or Le Plat, wife of Pierre Charron. Three of these articles were published in Michigan’s Habitant Heritage (two of these articles were also published in French by the SFOHG) and one for the newsletter of the Charron Family Association. The French-Canadian Heritage Society of Michigan feels that people should have the English language articles available to readers in one place. All of these articles have been uploaded to the French-Canadian Heritage Society of Michigan website on our Medical Issues, DNA Page: http://habitantheritage.org/french-canad…/medical_issues_dna

    The Assocation des Charron et Ducharme has adopted a formal position on the origins of Catherine Pillard. You can read their position on their website: http://www.charron-ducharme.org/…/87-catherine-pillard-s-or…

    Readers are also invited to read the articles by Suzette Leclair (http://www.geninfo.org/Pillard/DNA.htm), (http://www.geninfo.org/Pillard/index.html), (http://www.geninfo.org/Pillard/DNA-Genealogy.htm) one of the co-authors of the 2009 article.

  • Couture

    Wow, they think she was First Nation. Very intriguing.
  • James P. LaLone

  • Couture

    Great article. Have been totally immersed in Metis research. Most U.S. citizens don't know what the word means. Most in US that are Metis, in my small sample, had no idea that they were. Good friends with last names Demers and Durand have so many Metis ancestors you cant count them all.

    I am searching for the ultimate Metis research golden ring...the Metis family that Guillaume Couture started while being held at Tionnontoguen (Mohawk Okwaho Wolf Clan castle).
  • Couture

    Going to Bed Canadian; Waking Up American

    Details in the Deposition!



    If you are fortunate enough to have French-Canadian or Acadian ancestors who lived in the Upper St. John River Valley on the Maine/New Brunswick border, then this episode's for you.


    George Findlen returns to Maple Stars and Stripes to share the history and geography of this area, as well as to explain how to access depositions our ancestors filled out to prove land ownership. These depositions are filled with genealogy goodies!

    Check it out now at www.MapleStarsandStripes.com/42

  • James P. LaLone

  • James P. LaLone

    Some books on the background history of New France: https://www.questia.com/library/history/north-american-history/cana...

  • James P. LaLone

    Book announcement:

    The SFOHG published following publication: The repertoire of baptismals, marriages and deaths for Notre-Dame-du-Lac/Our Lady of the Lake
    It came out today, near 1000 pages and it sells for 65$ (CAN/US?); call to reserve a book or drop in for a visit.
    They are now situated at 940 Prince RD Windsor, entrance through College Ave.
    They are open every Tuesday from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m.
    Agathe Vaillancourt, Coordonator
    Centre de généalogie, Pionnière du Sud-Ouest
    519-948-6924 (cell: 519-995-6924)

  • James P. LaLone

  • James P. LaLone

    Review of "The Revenant" from a F-C point of view - http://myall.bangordailynews.com/2016/03/01/south-dakota/what-the-r...

  • James P. LaLone

    STEP BACK IN TIME TO THE FUR TRADE ERA

    MONROE, Michigan.— Superintendent Scott J. Bentley announced today that River Raisin National Battlefield Park, welcomes you to a National Park Service Centennial Event: “Step Back in Time to the Fur Trade” on Saturday, April 2, 2016 from 2:00-3:30 p.m.

    Join Norbert DeWilde to learn all about the fur trade. Have fun exploring furs in this hands-on fun filled educational activity. For ages 6-12 years, the event is free, but please RSVP to reserve a spot today by calling the battlefield at 734-243-7136.

    River Raisin National Battlefield Park preserves, commemorates, and interprets the January 1813 battles of the War of 1812 and their aftermath in Monroe and Wayne counties in Southeast Michigan. The Battles of the River Raisin resulted in the greatest victory for Tecumseh’s Confederation and the greatest defeat for the United States during the War of 1812. Although American forces were victorious in the first battle, the second ended in what was described as a “national calamity” by then General William Henry Harrison, and later President of the United States. The battle cry, "Remember the Raisin!" inspired a massive U.S. victory at the Battle of the Thames, which sealed the War of 1812 in the western theater for the U.S., claimed the life of the great Shawnee leader, Tecumseh, and resulted in the end of the American Indian Confederation. The aftermath of the Battles resulted in the implementation of Indian removal from the Northwest Territory at the conclusion of the War of 1812, an aftermath that continues to influence the United States today. For more in-depth information about the Battlefield please visit http://www.nps.gov/rira/index.htm or www.battlefieldfoundation.com

  • James P. LaLone

  • Couture

    Filles du Roi-the Perilous Journey 

    Check it out at Maple Stars and Stripes.

  • Couture

    The piece on The Revenant was spot on.  I was offended by the way the French were portrayed. I tried to make my case at the office but nobody cared.  I did like the movie and I'm a big fan of Leo's.  

  • Couture

    This book is very interesting.  The Jesuits were the largest land owners in New France. They were amazing linguists, organizationally. 

    De Religione
    Telling the Seventeenth-Century Jesuit Story in Huron to the Iroquois.

    By John L. Steckley

  • Couture

    The French were able to explore vast amounts of territory in North American by adopting First Nation technology, most notably, the canoe.  That is how we Quebecois entered the St. Laurence and came out the Gulf of Mexico. 

    My great-grandfather was a Acadian voyager who married a Mi'kmaq woman, so my canoe interests lay with one of the greatest Native canoe building cultures that ever existed, the Mi'kmaqs.

  • James P. LaLone

  • James P. LaLone

  • James P. LaLone

    Of possible interest, Metis history - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cansk/Metis/index.html

  • Paul Shenton

    Do not use AccuMetrics for ethnicity testing.  It is very low resolution and mostly wild guessing knowing that most people who test their are looking for their elusive "Indian Princess".  Companies that do much broader testing are Ancestry.com, ftDNA.com, and to a lesser extent 23andMe.com.  You can download your autosomal (as well as y-DNA and mitochondrial results) and use their tools or upload them to third party applications for analysis that are hundreds of times better.

  • Paul Shenton

    William, if you prefer ham-fisted fantasy over more accurate but disappointing results at FTDNA, that is your prerogative.  The truth is that Accu-Metrics is a paternity and dog-pedigree testing company that discovered that they could pull in a little extra cash by offering other tests to the unwise.  

    The fact is that there is no test out there that could distinguish specifically Mikmaq ancestry, and the fact that Accu-Metrics came up with such a exceedingly specific result is roof that it is garbage.  If the result would have been something like "most likely Algonkian heritage based on haplotype" as for example X is mostly found in that group, but can be found in others as intermarriage between tribes was commonplace, then such would be reasonable, and you could use your known history to confirm it was Mikmaq.

    In fact, if you would even have bothered to try to ascertain what Accu-Metrics does, for Native American testing, they state on their own website: "This test determines if your DNA contains the haplotypes that belong to the people of First Nations and Native Americans".  FTDNA does the highest resolution haplotype testing.  They do not mention autosomal testing anywhere.

    The post is not necessarily intended for you, but to assist others in making wiser choices for DNA analysis.  Perhaps, you could refrain from posting your misguided and uninformed opinions and advice to others and then it would not be necessary for me to respond to them for the sake of others and I would gladly not do so.

  • James P. LaLone

  • James P. LaLone

  • James P. LaLone

  • James P. LaLone

    More Acadian information, click the "next" button at the bottom (not the arrow) - http://erenow.com/modern/aneighteenthcenturyhistory/1.html

  • James P. LaLone

  • James P. LaLone

  • James P. LaLone

    I joined WikiTree in late Feb. with the idea of making my genealogy available to my relatives. The link is for my family, still in the process of making additions & sourcing (big learning curve on this site), but those who may connect with me might also be interested in the listing of French-Canadian families in my direct line -  http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/LaLone-73.

  • James P. LaLone

    Of possible interest - New England French-Canadians: http://maplestarsandstripes.com/shownotes/mss-051-silent-presence-f...

  • James P. LaLone

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  • Arorasky

    @ James P. Lalone, thank you for accepting me to group. I've read many many of the things you've published posted on the web, about genealogical lines for Bourassa Families, and some others. I am also on Wikitree, and since I know you research carefully looking for the actual truths for Ancestries, I have a question for you, you are still new to Wiki? so I will assume, you haven't seen the rhetoric yet? The continuiing issues of not acknowledging the facts of births of those of N8v&frnch mixed blood births.  I'm finding no matter which major genealogy site I join, there is constantly a need for many to start "Acadian" groups and then flat refuse to acknowledge the children/marriages families of those who may have been of Acadian descent but thru marriages and births the children are now being proven thru dna, and mtdna as not full euro blood lines.  These "acadian" groups, will literally state things like, "well if SW doesn't list, then it's not correct".  What these researchers don't realize is SW was ASKED to do Heritage BOOKS of ONLY ACADIANS...which means...many children, wives, husbands, ancestors or descendants were actually LEFT out of their own Families!  I found this out when I located online SW's own words stating during the publication of I think it was the Bergeron Publication of Genealogy they (Bergeron Society maybe not sure and SW both) determined that NOT OMITTING Families with Native or other Heritages allowed them to ADD an Additional ..something like 250 family lines of history to the publication!  So when I found this...I questioned another well known Genealogist.."expert" and SHE stated to my question...my question was "does this mean that publications books written by SW before this one and possibly after this one, have left out children & spouses, etc who were Native or anything else that wasn't french heritage?"... her response was..."well in SW defense he was asked to do books of only Acadian descent".  I'm sorry I'm going on and on here..but you will find on Wiki and other Genealogical sites with "acadian groups" many flat refuse to see their own true heritages! and by doing so they are still in 2016 excluding their own families from the rights of acknowledgment of who they are and where they came from. 

  • Arorasky

    Sorry..I get worked up about this, I've been fighting this battle for almost 20 years now.  my question to you is...what do you think is the best way to handle these ones who are now basically controling the "wiki" genealogical datas for ancestors of 1700's and back.  basically on wiki you are not allowed to make duplicate profiles, and if they of the "expert groups" don't agree with your data, they have the right to REMOVE IT and to REMOVE Marriages, Partnerships, CHILDREN, etc..so even if you know your lines on WIKi...if you don't have full blown proof usually including Tanguay and or SW  guess what..they will delink married spouses. I've seen them do it!.. so where does that leave us, the ones looking for and finding the real truths?  I've even told them to research the Jesuit Relations Volumes..I get no responses..basically feel blown off & am beginning to think I should pull all my data from site

  • James P. LaLone

    Arorasky, I have no Acadian ancestry (that I know of) and am not real familiar with all the sources and their "background", but it seems to me that if there are records that documentation can be used.  I realize that some may be family stories but usually there are things that can be found to help support those stories (I realize because of the "interruptions" in Acadia a lot of documents no longer exist.  In this case DNA tests would be helpful.  Regarding WikiTree there are ways of dealing with conflicts and I would try to resolve things that way, and if you keep getting blown off keep pushing and providing evidence of your arguments, contact Chris (the head if need be).  Sorry I can't be of more help.

  • James P. LaLone

    River Raisin National Battlefield Park News Release

    For Release:     Immediately 

    Contact:            Scott J. Bentley, Superintendent

    Address:           1403 E. Elm Ave., Monroe, MI. 48162

    Website:            http://www.nps.gov/rira

    Phone:              (734)243-7136 

    2nd Annual French-Canadian Descendants Reunion

     

                MONROE, Michigan.— Superintendent Scott J. Bentley announced today that River Raisin National Battlefield Park will be hosting the 2nd annual French-Canadian Descendants Reunion on Sunday, September 25, 2016, from noon until 4:00 pm.

    Guests are asked to bring a dish to pass, their genealogy, family trees, and any family traditions or recipes. For more information or to RSVP, please contact Sandy Vanisacker by email at svanisacker@yahoo.com.

    River Raisin National Battlefield Park preserves, commemorates, and interprets the January 1813 battles of the War of 1812 and their aftermath in Monroe and Wayne counties in Southeast Michigan.    The Battles of the River Raisin resulted in the greatest victory for Tecumseh’s Confederation and the greatest defeat for the United States during the War of 1812.    Although American forces were victorious in the first battle, the second ended in what was described as a “national calamity” by then General William Henry Harrison, and later President of the United States.  The battle cry, "Remember the Raisin!" inspired a massive U.S. victory at the Battle of the Thames, which sealed the War of 1812 in the western theater for the U.S., claimed the life of the great Shawnee leader Tecumseh, and resulted in the end the American Indian Confederation.  The Aftermath of the Battles resulted in the implementation of Indian removal from the Northwest Territory at the conclusion of the War of 1812, an aftermath that continues to influence the United States today.   For more in-depth information about the Battlefield please visitwww.nps.gov/rira/ or www.battlefieldfoundation.com

     

    About the National Park Service:  More than 20,000 National Park Service employees care for America’s 407 national parks and work with communities across the nation to help preserve local history and create close-to-home recreational opportunities.  Learn more at www.nps.gov-NPS-

  • Jayne Ireland

    Arorasky, I also do not understand how anyone can limit the definition of Acadians to only-French. I have only recently discovered Acadians in my family tree and had read that they were distrusted/looked down upon as "mix-breeds" (French + English + Scottish + Mi'kmaq). It was through the Acadian-Cajun Genealogy site http://www.acadian-cajun.com/genacad1.htm  that I learned that my ancestor Germain DOUCET was in fact Native American. So some information can still be found, despite the destruction of documents during the grand dérangement.

  • Arorasky

    @ Jayne Ireland,

    I agree with you Jayne, in the first place, the original "Acadians" were spoken of within the Jesuit Relations books, and when they (the Jesuits) referred to them they in many cases were talking about the children born of the french and n8tv marriages.  I've spent years doing this research and have located numerous references and marriages of french and n8tv..within many many records of the old forts, Jesuits, churches etc, But the fact still remains...that their are "groups" of ppl whom don't want these marriages listed, seen or known about.  When I first lost my original data, from a puter crash, I went to a distant cousin online, and asked if I could get a copy from him, to restart all my genealogy thru grandparent lines he and I shared. He gave me it happily, and I was very grateful..but this is where it changed and opened my eyes..I told him I was having a hard time locating any documents of mixed marriages within the Quebec and Acadie areas didn't know where to find the records of the ones of n8v descent.  He informed me, there was NO NDN in our Families at ALL and that we were of PURE FRENCH BLOOD LINES..this was his exact words..then he went on to say, it was impossible, as their HAD NEVER BEEN ANY NDNS IN the QUEBEC< ACADIE< of LAPRAIRIE regions!  again..his words.  So I dropped it, and went to researching on my own again.  THis year I actually came across something else disturbing...Membership into one of the N.Eastern Seaboard Genealogical Societies, REQUIRES that researchers will NEVER post, SHARE or give out ANY INFO of CHILDREN born that are ILLEGITEMATE in particular within the LAST 100 years.  now.. I was floored when I read this..BECAUSE their were many many Country Marrgs and Ntv marrgs..meaning.. if common lawed married..guess what..they won't show you give you or help you find the infos, and if you join to get to the infos..they have you signing a doc that says..you won't share it or show it!  hows that for another way to keep infos outta the spotlight

  • James P. LaLone

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  • James P. LaLone

    Of possible interest -

    From: Genealogy a la carte by Gail Dever
    LAC part of worldwide Francophone organization that launched digital library

    http://genealogyalacarte.ca/?p=19722
    http://rfnum-bibliotheque.org/rfn
    http://rfnum-bibliotheque.org/rfn/fr/amerique_caraibe

    Members of the Reseau francophone numerique (RFN) [Francophone Digital Network], including Library and Archives Canada (LAC), issued a news release yesterday to announce they had unveiled a new digital library at their annual general meeting in Brussels on April 26. The French-language Bibliotheque numerique du RFN website includes more than a thousand records from the heritage collections of ten Francophonie member nations and states.

    A quick look at the Amerique- section, representing the Americas and the Caribbean, reveals digitized documents by Jacques Cartier and Samuel de Champlain, an early 18th-century document about the laws and constitutions in the French colonies in America, and maps.

    http://genealogyalacarte.ca/?p=19722
    http://rfnum-bibliotheque.org/rfn
    http://rfnum-bibliotheque.org/rfn/fr/amerique_caraibe

  • James P. LaLone

    NEHGS announces a webinar (these are free!) on November 16 2017, 3-4 pm Eastern Time:

    Navigating Notarial Records in Quebec

    “Notarial records are an essential—yet often overlooked—resource for family historians researching ancestors with roots in Quebec. From marriages to estate inventories to labor contracts these records can provide a wealth of genealogical information not found elsewhere. Join Senior Researcher Sheilagh Doerfler to learn about what types of notarial records exist, how to access them, and how to get the most out of these important resources."

    Register at https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/8199583060911519490

  • James P. LaLone

    From -
    "Elizabeth Bourne
    June 19 at 2:35pm

    Bonjour Tremblay cousins! There's a new exhibit at the Rendez-vous at Ste. Anne Parish de Detroit this year! We are dedicating a tent to "Our Families, Our Stories." Organizers are looking for people to create tabletop displays about your French Canadian, Metis or Native American family. I am doing one on my Vaillancourt side of my family which will show my connection to Benoit Tremblay, but the main story will be on my other line. Since there are so many Tremblays, it would be great to have the family represented. In this tent we will also have cards on cords for people to write their surnames, and then they can wear the cards during the festival. This will make it pretty easy to connect with cousins. If you are interested in creating a display, private message me and I'll give you more information. The Rendez-vous will be held September 22 and 23, 2018, timed to coincide with French Canadian Heritage Week in Michigan. I am especially interested in displays which would feature the migration of the Tremblays from Quebec to Detroit to the founding of Bay City, Michigan. Thank you!"

    I plan on being there the 22nd with info on the TREMBLAY family - Jim.