I finally have an update on the search for my GGF John Noble, born (somewhere) in Fermanagh in 1847 or 1848, father unknown, mother named Rose (surname unknown). I am a close match to the proprietor of this forum, and have received other Y-67 matches through FTDNA, ranging from Canada to Australia. None of my Y-67 matches know their point of origin in Fermanagh.

The NLM has started putting Catholic baptisms on line. One of the complexities of my search for John Noble, b. 1847-8 is the fact that he was raised in Connecticut by an adoptive family as a Roman Catholic, when, as we know, most of the Fermanagh Nobles are as Orange as they come.

I recently received through Ancestry a copy of the baptism of Johannes Noble 3 April 1848, Father Johannes Noble, Mother Rosa Maguire, Parish of Enniskillen, Diocese of Clogher. Above the name of the father is a notation "0-14" or possibly "0-IL", which a Facebook contact tells me indicates illegitimacy, although it is in a different hand than the register entry and looks as if it could have been entered after the original entry. The godparents are Thomas and Susanna Corrin.

Anyway, I think that's as close as I'm going to get. Anyone who an comment on the notation "O-IL" or "0-IL", I'd love to hear from you.

Hi John Thomas Noble. I'm very interested in your latest post regarding your John Noble b. 1847/48 somewhere in Fermanagh, as my grandfather was also born there, in 1843 or 1845 in Dromore, Fermanagh. He married June 14, 1864 in Drumkeeran or Ivinestown, Fermanagh to Margaret McCutchen and his father was listed as John Noble. He & Margaret came to Quebec in 1864, and on the 1871 Cdn.census, there was an Edward Noble b.abt 1848 in Ireland, living with Henry and family. Both were Protestant, Henry was C of E and Congregational, while Edward was Methodist. I've never been able to go any further back, nor find out the name of Henry's or Edward's mother. I would love to see if we match at all with DNA, but don't know exactly how to proceed. Would like to hear from you, and can give you my e-mail address if you like, just let me know.

It is nice to see so much activity in the group - it was dormant for so long. I know there are 4 of us who have done the y-111 test. I have a genetic distance of 3 with James Thomas and Raymond Arnold and 7 with Thomas Raymond. Has anyone done the autosomal DNA test  - I had that done last fall. Just last month I had a another SNP test done for Z-198 and I tested positive on that one. I plan to have further ones done later this year.

My previous post should have read to JAMES Thomas Noble. 

Sorry for the confusion

John, is there a data base on this site to enter and compare our DNA?

There are quite a few dna groups but most are for specific surnames! Most people who have gone through FamilyTreeDna have used there y-search or joined a project - there is a Noble project there! Not sure what Ancestry or any of the others have!

Yeah, I've tried to navigate Family Tree DNA, but find it the most in-user friendly site I belong to. I have joined the Noble project with no results. Same for the other 2 projects I belong to. I have uploaded my results to Gedmatch which compares results from numerous DNA labs, and lots and lots of matches, but no way to search by surname that I can find. Have had a bit of luck with Ancestry also, but not on my Noble side. Stumped by my Irish ancestors.

I too uploaded my autosomal results to Gedmatch I will go back in there later today.

re John Preston Storey; I have my brother's Big Y, my closest match is Scott Noble!

The raw data will be downloaded today hopefully, if I can work my way through it.

This is a big challenge for a little old lady...............

Sorry, I forgot.......Kit # 599041, 

I also forgot, the new haplogroup is BY3194.. I am going back to the paper trail in Northern Ireland...hard work!

Seeing the DNA kit Suzanne just posted made me wonder if there is a data base here. I know about the FTDNA one, but perhaps this group if it doesn't have one, could start one which would be easier to navigate than the FTDNA one.                 Anyway, just in case a fellow Noble has a list, here is my GEDmatch kit number: A027086

Ron I compared my kit on GEDmatch to yours and we share no DNA segments!

Suzanne  - your kit number cannot be found on GEDmatch!

Thanks John, maybe someday I'll get a match or two.

Hi John, sorry, that kit # is for FTDNA. My GEDmatch # is T032264.

It looks from the DNA results that my male ancestors were Nobles, not Storeys

Hi Susan - like Ron we share no DNA segments!

Hi Susan. No match with me either. Those Irish Noble's are very difficult to trace..

John and Ron, there has to be a clue somewhere. I had no idea there were so many different families, and so many with identical names. I started over 20 years ago and I'm worried I will lose the plot before I find the answers. I already have some diagnosed memory loss, and no one to take over. But today I will be gardening, life is not all about the past

Hi Suzanne, I am the Scott Noble you mentioned earlier.  I checked into FTDNA and was looking for the Kit # 599041 but didn't find it.  Are you a member of FTDNA's NOBLE group or another group?  Would like to connect directly ... my email is praetor1@sympatico.ca ...

As is your brother, my terminal mutation is BY3194.

While researching my g-father's war records, I came across a "Henry Noble" that enlisted in the Spanish American War with an address of Fermanagh, Ireland. I found the records in the www.fold3.com page. Hope that helps.

Thanks Danilo, I have had a look at that Henry. He must be part of the Ulster family somewhere. It seems there were a lot of them, unfortunately he does not seem to belong to any of the families we are looking for.

Best wishes for the holidays, to all the Nobles and their extended families. Still looking for the elusive possible NPE!

Hi, I have just joined this group in the hope of tracing my g grandmother and her ancestors, which I have been researching on and off for about 5 years.

All I know at the moment is that her name is Jane Noble she was born Enniskillen, Ireland  abt 1832,  and she married a Joseph Lewis in NSW Australia in 1853.

The rest of the information I have is very murky. 

There is a Jane Noble  (COE) that immigrated to Australia in 1852 on a ship named the David Mciver,   I have a copy of the passenger list and someone has written on it that her parents were John and Martha both deceased, I don't know if this was added by someone from Ancestry?  and they are just guessing the name of her parents or if it was added my the irrigation board?

I also have a copy of her Death Cert.and my grandmothers Birth cert both of which state that she had no parents  which seems to confirm that she could have been an orphan at the time of immigration?

Being very obstinate and not wanting to give up, I am trying to find out who matches my brother on FTDNA at 12 markers, with haplogroup BY3194. The name is 'Mr Noble', ancestor is John Noble 1817 Fermanagh, 1861 Ontario. 

The match is also on the Noble results in group 1, with kit # N23705.

I have results from Yfull, which show 3 matches, including 2 from France. Two are known matches, the other is a Frenchman from the Loire region. He has replied to my message and seems interested in being involved.

There were so many families that went to Canada, some of them must be related?

If only the Irish records were not so hard to find........

Suzanne

This is a screen shot of the matches on BigY

Suzanne - the match you found  on FTDNA - kit number N23705 is me. I will have to check that out later today - unfortunately 12 markers is very little - I have had 111 done. I will get back to you either here or from FTDNA - this could be very interesting.

Suzanne - perhaps  we can communicate better outside this group - my email is nobility1817@gmail.com

Hi, I was on FTDNA and in the NOBLE Group there is a Kit # 36865 which lists Maj. Arthur Noble b 1654 d 1731 County Fermanagh as Parental Ancestor.  Does this belong to anyone in this group???

Hi Scott - that is Michael Wesley Noble.

Hi Scott -- As John mentions below, I have kit #36865.  How can I help you?

Hi Michael - At one time I thought I might be a descendant of Mgr Arthur Noble as well. I noticed that with a 60/67 similarity, we have a MCRA around 425 years ago (using a generation time of 25 years). I then reviewed your ancestry.com file to see I could find a place to fit.  However, at the moment I saw no obvious place.  Currently, the oldest ancestor I have identified is a John Noble born c 1795 probably in County Down.  He had a sister Hannah born 1790.  Still more digging to do.  Any suggestions?

Hi Lorraine, I have some info re your Jane Noble. Her parents were Martha Hindman 1807 - 1890 age 83 in Lisnaskea, father John Noble b 1802 in Fermanagh.

Her mother was alive when she went to Australia, maybe they had a falling out!

I found this on Ancestry, I think there is more, Suzanne

Lorraine, the Ancestry Tree is named Brady Family. Jane married Joe Lewis in 1853, in Paddington, Sydney. She died 3 May 1912 in Bathurst, New South Wales. According to this tree they had 20 children!!!!  How did she live to 80?

There are docs to support the above dates.

Hi Suzanne,  Thanking you for your reply,  I am pretty sure there are a lot of incorrect trees on Ancestry.  I have a passenger list from the ship that Jane arrived on and it states that both her parents were deceased?  this is in 1852. also there is  a note stating hospital alongside her name?  phoned the NSW Archives they couldn't help if she was in hospital on the ship or went to hospital after she arrived here? they said there could be more records but I need to do the research there, makes it a bit hard as I live in Qld.    I have been through so many Irish records hitting a brick wall each time,   the trouble is so many records around that time have been lost. My grandmother was born in Fitzgerald's Valley near Bathurst,  she was one of 15 children that Jane Noble and Joseph Lewis had and each one survived.   All the paperwork I have of Jane, her death cert,. marriage cert. etc. state no parents?

I could be wrong, not sure,  I am wondering if anyone knows where I may be able to do some more research online?  Thanks Lorraine

Afternoon to the Noble families,  I am wondering if it would be of any use if I had a DNA test done? to try and shed some light on my g grandmother Jane Noble?

My head is just spinning trying to find Jane's parents, I have been told they were deceased when she immigrated to Australia, I have spoken to the Archives in Sydney, they also assumed that both parents were deceased in 1852?

I don't know if any of this is correct?  Any ideas what would be my next step?

Thanks Lorraine

Lorraine -  having a DNA test done will only prove your g grandmother's lineage as to where this lineage came from and unless you have other relatives who have also done DNA it may be a waste of money. It would be better to exhaust searching all existing repositories in Ireland and Australia if you have not already done so.

I have just joined the project under my own name, rather than my brother's. He has mtDNA matches to 2 Nobles, so I am hoping I will have them also.

My kit # is 276566, I have a very old unique mtDNA L3e5a which originates in the Chad Lake basin

Thank you John,  I thought the DNA  test might prove not to be of use to me.

I will keep plugging away,  been searching on and off for 6 years now in the hope that some new data will be available.

Regards Lorraine

  I just received word that my genealogy buddy has passed.  Terry L Noble, a wonderful man, will be much missed by his wife Karla, friends, and family.  The obituary may be viewed at https://www.danielsfuneral.com/

My deepest sympathy to Terry's family and his friends especially those who were connected to him via this group

I am deeply saddened to learn of Terry's passing and offer my condolences to his family.  Terry was one of two people whose DNA I matched perfectly and I never got to meet or talk with him.  May he rest in peace.

Hello to the extended Noble family! I want to let everyone know that Family Tree DNA has specials on at present. If possible, it would be great to have more tests given that the paper trail seems to have disappeared into the mists of time!

Scott and my brother John have tested as far as we can go, so if anyone can upgrade now would be a good time to do it.

At present I am mired in the 1500's looking at the Border Reiver families, they are incredibly confusing, and trying to make connections between the various Noble families is really difficult. Talk about the 'missing link'!

I would like to get in touch with Bruce Noble (Jr?) who lives in Sulphur, OK.  Bruce, you messaged Michael W Noble.  If your ancestors were Ernest Noble (and Jane), Ernest T Noble and Lena Donaho, Tom O Noble and Lula Belle, I am your cousin, and I have so much information.  My genealogy buddy and cousin, Terry Noble died in the spring of this year, and it would be wonderful to have a cohort in trying to break down my brick walls.                  BTW, the Chickasaw National Recreation area in Sulphur is my favorite place!!  I've been there many times, and have likely run into you there (not knowing what I now know).

This might be helpful for Michael, I have found some info about the Storeys in his family in "Burkes Landed Gentry of Ireland".

Unfortunately my lot were not related!

Suzanne

Dear Linda Noble Murphy:  I am Bruce Noble, Jr.  Sorry for not responding sooner.  I am no longer in Sulphur, OK, but now live in Colorado.  (Yes, Chickasaw NRA is a great place!)  The Noble names you list are not familiar to me.  I will mention them to my father who is more knowledgeable about family history that I am.  For further conversation, feel free to contact me at webnoble1@gmail.com or through FaceBook Messenger.  Regards, Bruce  (PS--I think all Nobles are "cousins" if you go back far enough!)

From Big Y-700 we have a new subclade R-Y140232, for John Storey and Donald Kennedy Noble, (kit IN46681) , with 7 un-named variants. We also have a match at 12 markers with Eamonn John Mitchinson.
Making good progress!

I recently joined FTDNA and am upgrading to Y-700 (Big Y). I've had some luck in the past year or so in chasing down my Noble line back in Enniskillen.

Andrew and Ann Isabella (Baillie) Noble had children: Annabella (1845-1875) m John Wilson, d Enniskillen; Elizabeth (1845-1914) m James Bricknell, 5 children, to England; Robert (1846-1909) m Anne McDermott, 5 children, d Enniskillen; Maria Jane (1851) m William Stewart, 6 children; and Andrew (1853-1889), m Isabella Irvine, 6 children, d Scotland.

I've traced some of the Stewarts to Australia. Bricknell served in India and had children there, returned to England. Andrew's daughter Elizabeth m MacNeill and went to New Zealand.

My daughter btw had a piano accompanist at Smith College named Noble. I traced his lineage this afternoon and found he is a direct descendant of Thomas Noble who arrived in Boston circa 1650 and established a saw mill in western Massachusetts in 1664. The line has been in Westfield, MA and environs for over 300 years. If no one from that line has tested on yDNA, he might be a good candidate. I'm not in personal contact with the man but could dig around if need be. The lineage seems to be vast, however.

FTDNA has taken my first name George, so you will see me there as George Noble. I have my DNA at Ancestry, 23&me, Living DNA, and now FTDNA. My autosomal results have processed. I submitted for the Y-111 test but was charmed into upgrading to Y-700 while the Y-111 was still being processed, so as my kit was received 23 June and upgraded a few days ago, I guess i can expect results in Sep-Oct 2021.

I am surprised there is no Noble discussion board within FTDNA. Is there a reason for that?

Pat Noble

Aberdeen, NJ, USA

Hello everyone. I have recently joined and have read with interest all the twisting possible leads to trace our Noble ancestors in Ireland, I am a Noble descended from John Henderson Noble who emigrated from County Fermanagh to Australia c1860. I am the daughter of Arthur Hamilton Noble, his grandson born 1910. Reading Talbots writing about the ‘early nobles’ in Ireland makes me fairly certain we are descended from John & Margaret Noble of Kilgartnaleague, County Fermanagh. I have the wills of both John Noble and his grandson John and the names, birthdates and land locations match what I already know about my family. However, as I believe the families were but humble farmers their profile doesn’t get picked up by the geanealogy websites. I would love to hear from anyone who has more info about this Noble line in County Fermanagh. Particularly where they came from and their occupation. I am keen to find out if the name Noble continues in Ireland from this line because as my great grandfather was the only son with 3 sisters he brought the name and line to Australia and although the line does continue in Ireland under other names, the name Noble may not unless there were other related male descendants. The 1750-1850 time-frame with lost records, potato famine, high emigration and general unrest makes getting answers more challenging. The family did assist by using traditional naming and Arthur Hamilton Noble links back to a connection with an undertaker from the  Plantation of Ulster.  I am searching for a Hamilton /Noble link between 1610-1800 and have found a Mary Noble née Hamilton 1724-1798 in the Old Magheracross cemetery with a Thomas who I think could very well be connected to Thomas Noble of Kilgartnaleague. But….can’t find any info on either. Please, if you know anything at all that might throw more light, I would love to hear from you. Kind regards, Margaret