I recently found the following posted in a blog:
Joseph Young, was a patriot lieutenant who died of wounds sustained on September 12, 1781, in the Battle of Kirk's Farm. Margaret's brother, John Hastings, was probably fighting with the Loyalists that day.

In the summer of 1781, the "Tory War" broke out in central and eastern North Carolina, toward the end of the Revolutionary War. By then, the colonial government had already fled to Wilmington, and the colonists had selected their own governor, Thomas Burke. The Loyalist colonel David Fanning decided to capture Burke. On the morning of September 12, 1781, Fanning, with a group of about forty Loyalists that probably included John Hastings, united with a larger force of Scotsmen led by Col. McNeill, crossed the Deep River and headed toward Hillsborough.

The Loyalists encountered a small force of patriots at Kirk's Farm, under the command of Colonel Abram Allen and his lieutenant, Joseph Young. The Loyalists killed the lookout and then ambushed the rebels. During fighting, both Allen and Young were badly wounded. Allen survived; Young did not.

The Loyalists continued on to Hillsborough, where they captured Gov. Burke. The Whigs counterattacked the next day at Lindley's Mill, in what is today Alamance County, but they failed to free Burke. The Loyalists transported him to Wilmington, and from there the British sent him to Charleston.

The pension applications of Orange County natives Henry Ivy and James Cheek confirm that Joseph Young was a lieutenant in the light horse company of rebels commanded by Colonel Abram Allen, and that Young died shortly after the battle.

Joseph Young's will is dated September 24, 1781 and was proved in court during the November 1781 term. Joseph Young, was a patriot lieutenant who died of wounds sustained on September 12, 1781, in the Battle of Kirk's Farm. Margaret's brother, John Hastings, was probably fighting with the Loyalists that day.

In the summer of 1781, the "Tory War" broke out in central and eastern North Carolina, toward the end of the Revolutionary War. By then, the colonial government had already fled to Wilmington, and the colonists had selected their own governor, Thomas Burke. The Loyalist colonel David Fanning decided to capture Burke. On the morning of September 12, 1781, Fanning, with a group of about forty Loyalists that probably included John Hastings, united with a larger force of Scotsmen led by Col. McNeill, crossed the Deep River and headed toward Hillsborough.

The Loyalists encountered a small force of patriots at Kirk's Farm, under the command of Colonel Abram Allen and his lieutenant, Joseph Young. The Loyalists killed the lookout and then ambushed the rebels. During fighting, both Allen and Young were badly wounded. Allen survived; Young did not.

The Loyalists continued on to Hillsborough, where they captured Gov. Burke. The Whigs counterattacked the next day at Lindley's Mill, in what is today Alamance County, but they failed to free Burke. The Loyalists transported him to Wilmington, and from there the British sent him to Charleston.

The pension applications of Orange County natives Henry Ivy and James Cheek confirm that Joseph Young was a lieutenant in the light horse company of rebels commanded by Colonel Abram Allen, and that Young died shortly after the battle.

Joseph Young's will is dated September 24, 1781 and was proved in court during the November 1781 term.

However, I found several other applications for pensions mentioning a Capt. Joseph Young from the same area. The father of Lt. Joseph Young was John Young. Could Capt. Joseph Young be an Uncle. Here are the citings.
1.Pension Application Of Jonathan Montgomery, Natl Archives Microseries M805, Roll __, Application #W3579 hat he entered the service as a volunteer in the year 1778 as a private in Captain Joseph Young's company, Col. Yancey's regiment, commanded by General Ashe.
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Anyone researching Georgia's part in the Rev. War, especially in and around the "Hornet's Nest"?

I will not only help others with their search for a Revolutionary War Patriot but to also join the "Sons of the American Revolution" and give direction to a couple of ladies that will assist efforts to join the "Daughters of the Amnerican Revolution" after we have found a Patriot and documented the generations. I will do the application for the males for both Adult males and Juniors. I have access to both the SAR and DAR data bases as well as Footnote. I am a member of Ancestry.com with links to over 500 Revolutionary Patriots in my Ancestry tree. I personally have direct line Patriots through the SAR with Captain Robert Cleveland who was a hero at the "Battle of King's Mountain", John Waller Key, John Key Sr, Richard Hankins, and Nathan Culver. I do not charge for this service, you would only pay your State and National dues. I have assisted many and last year worked with the person who was number one in recruiting new members for the SAR. I look forward to working with you.
Bob Thomas
Fort Worth, Texas

Bob - what an incredible offer! A few days ago I added a discussion in the forum section (above) about my Revolutionary War Patriot. He is buried in a tiny, overgrown cemetery; although he has a (fallen) stone, there is no war marker. I would love your help obtaining membership in the SAR through this patriot (I actually just started filling out the SAR form yesterday). Since I've been researching this line for many years, I also have a great deal of information and sources.

For what it is worth, I am a member of the SAR and have the following Patriots:
Adam Creager - Maryland, Henry Hilleary - Maryland, George Hilleary - Maryland, John Adam Link Sr. - Maryland, Philip Holt - Maryland and Charles Bowen, Maryland.
My wife is a DAR with Augustine Rouxelin Denos (French Army Captain) as her Patriot.

Bill

I have several Rev. War Ancestors in my database. I would like to learn about Daughter's of the American Revoluntion.

John LeGore is my Revolutionary War Ancestor. He was in the battle of White Plains and Brandywine. He was born in Alsace, Lorraine, France in 1755. Does anyone know if there were any records kept that stated the soldier's parents. John is my brick wall. I have more info on him and would be glad to share if anyone is interested. I, of course, would love more info from others.

So far, I can easily go straight back to Peter Gideon and John Conard. Am thinking about applying to the D.A.R.

Rev. Nathaniel Perkins is my connection to the American Revolution. He was born in Poughkeepsie, NY 6 July 1762 and died 15 July 1849 in Independence, NY.

My husband has several revolutionary patriot ancestors: Nathaniel Barlow (MA), Thomas Gillet Sr (MA), Thomas Gillet (MA), Phineas Howe (MA), John Haven (MA), Jesse Haven (Hebron, Tolland, CT), and John Jones (CT) served in Delaware.

His family tree was well documented past the 1700's but we didn't know if he had any patriots in his line. I recently discovered this information by submitting a search request for his New England ancestors to the DAR: http://www.dar.org/natsociety/pi_lookup.cfm. They confirmed 6 of the names. The seventh one had an SAR marker on his grave but was not in the DAR database. I found information on him through the SAR online catalog: http://www.rsar.org/rosters/findpatr.htm.

There is an excellent article by Dick Eastman that includes the basics on researching your Revolutionary War ancestors:
http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/07/revolutionary-roots.html

I am the registrar for El Toyon Chapter (Stockton, California) National Society Daughters of the American Revolution. My patriot ancestor is Abner Womack who served as a private from North Carolina.
If there is anyone who needs assistance with their application or has questions regarding membership to DAR I'd be happy to help.

I am seeking confirmation of the service of James CALLIN, and his brother John. In a booklet about the family, written in 1911, James's g-grandson says "Our fathers tell us that these two brothers came from Ireland just before the war, and enlisted in the Continental Army and fought under Lafayette at the battle of Brandywine and remained in this army till the close of the war. These brothers settled on government land in Westmoreland Co. in Western Penn., where they remained the remainder of their lives...." They may have enlisted in Virginia. I really would like to know how much of this, if any, is true. A branch of my family received membership in the DAR some years ago on the basis of this source, but I would like more confirmation for myself. Or can I piggy-back my DAR membership on the basis of my cousins'?

I just glanced around footnote, etc., and while there was no pension app for a James Callin/Callen, there was indeed a CMSR consisting of 56 cards for a James Callen/Callin/Callan of the 3rd & 4th Virginia, commanded by Col. Lawson. He's shown as having signed up for a 3 year enlistment and the CMSR references rolls dating from approx. Sep 1777 to Dec 1779. The 3rd & 4th Virginia was in fact at the Battle of the Brandywine, as your 1911 booklet relates.

So, that sounds like the man you're seeking.

While there was no pension, there was a few possibly interesting sheets located in another application.

Skelton Smith's app (W.2184) contained a request by a Miss Maggie Callen of East Point, Ga., for information regarding a James Callen, supposedly originally born in Ireland, one of two brothers, who received and bounty land and settled in or near Rome, Ga., his brother settling near Selma, Ala. She indicated that James was the father of a William Callen, and grandfather of a Thomas Arnold Callen, A response issued, 9 Oct 1933, reported that no pension or bounty land claim was found for any James Callen.

As far as the purported brother goes? Well, there was an Edward Callen of the 6th Penn., but that seems less likely than a CMSR (consisting of only 2 nearly blank cards) for a Joseph Callen and referring to a roll dated 4 May 1778 showing him as having been drafted into a "Detachment of Virginians," with no organizational info given.

A bit more could probably be found without too much trouble. Certainly the actual rolls (also digitized and available on footnote) could be looked at and might yield a few tidbits regarding the details of his service. Actually, when I think about it, I believe the rolls and CMSRs are also available at Ancestry.com.. aren't they? I'm too lazy to look at the moment.

Oh lord, ignore my typos and godawful grammar in the previous post. I should not be allowed near a keyboard before I've woken up. ;D

There is one James Callin DAR Ancestgor # A018427 in the DAR data base born 1750 Ireland died after 1816 Westmoreland, PA. His service was for Virginia and one reference is the Hist Reg of Virginia in the Revolution, pages 121 & 122. This must be him as he served under Col Lawson. There are a number of applications but name no wife and only one son John but there shows to be supporting documentation on a number of them that often names other children.
Bob Thomas

Oh, I almost forgot my most important one...John Worland, served in the Maryland Line, took the Oath of Allegiance before the Hon. Thomas Clagett in 1778. Adding that to Peter Gideon and John Conard, I guess I am definitely DAR material.

I do not know how to start with the D.A.R.

I had several g-grandfathers who served in the ARW: Michael Arbogast, Edward Elsey, Robert Kerr, Abraham Burner, William Loucks, David Gregory, Adam Helmick, etc. I do not have a lot of the information of their service and would like to obtain it. I've been working on my DAR application since last year and would like to do it based on all of my grandfathers who served. Any suggestions for obtaining the necessary documents, information, etc.?

I have a cousin who just started a DAR chapter in Lamar County, Alabama who would be happy to help with DAR membership for anyone. Her name is Kay Koonce. Her e-mail address is KayKoon@bellsouth.net
Bob

Margaret - DAR has this info on Michael Arbogast: Service: VIRGINIA Rank: PRIVATE Birth: 1734 GERMANY Death: (POST) 8-6-1805 CRABBOTTOM SECT PENDLETON CO VIRGINIA Service Source: MCALLISTER, VA MIL IN REV WAR, PP 147, 148Service Description: 1) CAPT PETER HULL
2) 2ND BATT AUGUSTA CO MILITIA

If this is your Michael you don't need to supply his proofs. You can contact DAR and find out all the people that are members under him. It does cost but then you just have to connect yourself in. To join DAR you would start by proving ancestry to 1 Patriot. After becoming a member you can submit proofs for the others. It will cost for each one. Contact the chapter you wish to join and their registrar can help you and probably save a load of time and angst.

The best way to start with the DAR is to find a local chapter and visit a meeting. The registrar at the chapter you wish to join can help you understand what is needed.

The same holds true with the DAR as does with the SAR. Some people will do all they can to help you but others will toss you an application and tell you to fill it out, collect the proper documentation, and get back to them when you have made it as easy for them as you can. I know this from experience and refuse to do anything with my local SAR chapter but belong to two out of State chapters having helped to form one of them to help others with their appliations and or searches. I have heard many horror stories from others when they got involved with the wrong person in the beginning. People can always transfer their memberships if they find a chaptrer they wish to transfer to. Why let someone get credit for something they did not do.
Bob

Good point Bob. I am quite fortunate. If one does not care for one's local chapter it is possible to join another chapter. Membership is technically by invitiation and they like you to have attended 3 meetings as a visitor. For a great many chapters anyone who wants to join is welcomed and invited. Most chapters want to grow their membership and the registrar is extremely helpful. There are always exceptions to anything.

This is very interesting to me as I was just accepted into the DAR. Took me 9 months before the local chapter thought was data was sufficient enough to send to Nationals. It wasn't easy; the research had to be perfect; but it was worth it!

The research is not always perfect. Sometimes it takes a burden of evidence to make a case. I have used a death certificate on a sibling naming parents who shared a census record with the applicant ancestor where the parent had died beore the next census and the ancestor did not have a death certificate. In other words link the sibling to the parent and then link your ancestor to the sibling. The registrar must be able to make these kind of suggestions and help the applicant with the research since we have the tools that the applicant usually does not have.
Bob

Baptismal records can often take the place of birth records. Similarly, obits, cemetery records and gravestones can often take the place of formal death records.

Thanks so much J. G. and Bob.

That does seem to be my James. The brother John is of lesser genealogical interest as he never married and lived the rest of his life in Westmoreland with his brother James. I just wondered whether something serious had happened to him in the war as they were in their twenties when they served, and I wanted to know more. Edward Callen is not likely of interest to me, but Joseph may possibly be.

Miss Maggie Callen's "request " is of interest for two reasons... I do have a Miss Maggie Callin, granddaughter of William; she may be the one making the request (if so her line is missing one generation from James). Or she may give a lead to a son of James whose name is unknown and who may have gone south; my line (James' sons John and James) went from Westmoreland to Ohio.

Now that I am started on being sure that my GGGG Grandfather James did serve, how can I find and access the other applications? I would like to know who else is working /has worked on this family. I am quite sure of the lines to myself, but I want to find all the Callins of this family that I can. Is there an online source for these applications, or do I need to seek out a local DAR chapter to help me? "Application" I understand as being an application to join one of the societies. However, I don't understand "requests"; of whom? DAR? SAR? I am truly a beginner in Revolutionary War research.

Thanks again,
Joan

Ive been doing lineage research work for people who are wanting to get into the NSDAR. I mostly do my work in West Virginia and Virginia. Ive been the DAR for the past five years. Over the past five years Ive been able to help establish at least four new patriot.
So If I can be of any help let me know allright
patsy

I am the registrar for my NSDAR chapter and have both ancestry and footnote. I'm always happy to assist people with their RW ancestors.

Joan Foster if you reading this email. You can go in on your cousin line that went into the DAR. You might only have to take it back four generation or up until you contect to the Patriot.
Do you know what patriot they used to get into the DAR? If you have there national number then all you have to do is get a copy of it and see what they used to get in etc.
patsy

I was going to add another comment. Searching your ancestor's that fought or gave aid during the Rev War can be a pain in the butt. Most registar will work with you to get the information you need to get into the DAR. Plus the Lineage person of that chapter can help you out too.
Im the lineage person for our chapter. But willing to help other people out not a problem.
Plus if any body on here would like to join a chapter in WV let me know allright. I can put you in contact with our state register.

Hi Patsy, Yes, I do have the national number my "cousins" went in on, and the patriot was my GGGG grandfather James Callin about whom I asked in my first posts. A few years ago I sent for the application records they used to get in, and the only source in their application was the same little booklet about the family that I originally mentioned. The cousins are from a collateral line, and if I remember correctly, they joined just a few years apart, one being in on the basis of the first one's acceptance. Are the standards of proof higher now? The booklet, which was written for a family reunion, has been amazingly accurate; I guess I'll look into this further at a local branch here in Oregon. Thanks

I am looking for any info on Andrew Jackson Whitehead.I think he came from Tennesse then to Tx.Thank you

I decend from Shadrack Walker, John Jennings, Thomas Jennings, Alexander Childress that I know of were all in or did something to aid in the Rev. War.

Researching my 6 great grandfather Daniel Hillman b 1755 Wife Heathy Craig b 1760. Served under Timoty Jaynes Co. of 753 Class of Northhampton Co. militia.

I have several ancesters that were in the Revolutionary War. I have found pension letters on many of them. What I don't have and want are war records. I have my lines but not all the birth and death records for my line. What I have been going by are family histories.

As far as joining the DAR, if they weren't so expensive to join, I would most definitely. I love the work that they do. I have the application and did my line but it will sit on my computer for now. Why don't they have ways for propecitive members to work off the dues?