You'd think with an R1b1b2 haplogroup, Moore surname, and 37 marker test, I'd have a lot of matches. But no!

Donald, have you checked your results against those on Ysearch, SMGF/Genetree and Ancestry DNA?

My subclade is R1b1b2a1a. I have seen discussions on testing for L21 etc. but am not clear if any more testing would be applicable to refine my subclade any further at this stage? I know the science is evolving quickly so it may be best to wait and see for the time being.

Donald - is there a Moore DNA project, and have you joined it?

Trevor - I can see your point, especially as the price of genetic sequencing continues to crash. It will be interesting to see how Y-DNA analysis is affected by new technologies!

I am R1b1b2. My biological surname is Richards, which has a Welsh origin. But my genealogy is stuck in 1742 Virginia, so I don't know where my original immigrant came from. But somewhere in the British Isles seems most likely.

I am a R1b1b2 with antecedants in Scotland and Northern Ireland (Macfarlane).

I have tested 67 markers at FTDNA but haven't received back the results from 38 thru 67 markers. FTDNA has estimated my haplogroup to be R1b1b2. I had known for some time that Hopper and Hooper were considered interchngable in early day Claiborne Co., TN and that most researchers still show the connection. My DNA test proves that the Hopper/Hooper connection is true.

My brother did a 46 marker test but all we know is that we are R1b and have a great long list of 'locations' and 'values'....how do we determine what subclade we belong to using these?

Samantha, I presume your brother tested with Ancestry. Unfortunately Ancestry only provide the three basic tests and don't offer any of the advanced tests. If your brother wants to know his subclade he would have to retest elsewhere. Family Tree DNA and Ethnoancestry are I think the only companies which offer the special SNP tests which are needed to confirm the subclade. Family Tree DNA have all the large haplogroup and subclade projects. Both these companies are actively involved in research and offer new SNP tests as and when they are discovered. The research is advancing in leaps and bounds at present.

Thanks Debbie, I will see if I can get him to spit again, lol!

Hi Samantha, You can get a reduced rate from FTDNA if you've tested elsewhere. I'll send you the form. The subclades give you a lot more precision about your deep ancestry. My dad is now R1b1b2a1a4, which arose just a few thousand years ago. As more people take the advanced tests we start to learn more about the origins of all these subclades. It's currently a very exciting field!

I am Y-DNA Haplogroup: R-M207 Subgroup: R1b1b2*-M269. I was tested by GeneTree. Surname should be BOLTON. My farthest back point on that direct line puts me in Virginia in mid 1700s. From there it is said to have come from England or Germany. Researching to find out!

My name is Charles Robert WARTHEN and I am pos for r-21 which gives me a R1b1b2a1b5*. I am interested as to where this will lead us to. Charlie

Blaine, yes there is a Moore DNA project and I am a member. Just ordered a 37->67 marker upgrade from FamilyTreeDNA.

Trevor, I am registered witt YSearch and Ancestry.

Thanks to both for the suggestions.

Don

I am Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1b2*- M269 - Surname Noble - orginating from County Fermangh to Ontario Canada

I miss informed you on my coment it is L=21 not r-21 for my haplogroup test. There are more to come but this is far as it goes today. I will have more to report later

Hi,
My husband's haplogroup is R1b1b2a1b5-FTDNA, Rodriguez surname from Puerto Rico. We have not been able to find any of his ancestors from outside of the Island.

Hi Ruth, I am a R1b1b2a1b5, Charles Warthen, I wonder if we checked our Y-DNA to see how many matches we might have. In short L21

Charles:
My husband's ysearch ID is NR6EY if you care to have a look.
I have joined him in the R-L21 Project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R-L21/default.aspx and the R-P312 and Subclades Project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/atlantic-r1b1c/default.aspx
From FTDNA, did you test with them? Both projects have a huge amount of R1b1b2a1b5 members.

I received an email from this group but I don't see it posted here.
My grandfather was born out of wedlock and carried his mother's maiden surname.
It took me a few years to find out who he was, besides just knowing his first name and one of his surnames. I would call my mother and give her the information I would find online from ancestry.com, she would visit her sisters and cousin and related to them the information. Little by little I would receive a bit more information back from my mother concerning my maternal grandfather's family. He died before 1920, I could not find him in the 1910 census. Puerto Rico only has the 1910, 1920, 1930 & 1935 census, anything earlier you would have to order it from the LDS center. I ordered an LDS film from the 1800's Puerto Rico census and was able to find who my maternal grandfather's father was. It took me a while, but I finally found out who he was. If you know the name of your grandfather I would start by looking at the census in the area where he lived and by getting in contact with family members who might have known some details about him and ask questions or look into Church records for the Baptism, they usually listed who the grandparents were, at least in Puerto Rico. I don't know if they list that information in other areas.

According to the results from GeneTree my Subclade is R1b1b2*-M269. My earliest relation is Joshua Church, Derby Line, VT around 1858 to dod. 1863.

I'm R1b1b2a1b* (P312). Earliest ancestor Thomas Wetmore (1615-1681) of Middletown, Connecticut.

Ruth,

I sent the email. I thought the Send Message to Group would post the comment here. Oh, well, live and learn, right? Anyway, my grandfather didn't even realize that he was illegitimate until he went to get his birth certificate when he was marrying my grandmother. He went through school and everything as my great grandmother's husband's son using his name -- Kowalski. My great grandmother never told anyone who the father was. On his birth certificate, from Chicago, Cook County, the father is listed as "Legally Omitted." The birth certificate was written in 1943 even though he was born in 1913 or thereabouts. I really think he was conceived, if not born, in the Hartford, CT area, as I do have a copy of my great grandmother's ship manifiest when she came in 1898. She stayed at 80 Potter St. I looked that address up on Google Earth, and that is where the Hartford Convention Center is now. I can't find her between 1898 - 1930 where she is living with her husband, my grandfather (as Kolwicky not even Kowalski) and my grandfather's half-siblings in Chicago.

Michael,
Have you tried searching to see if the LDS would have films of the census for that time period in the area that you are searching?

Charles,
Did you have a look at my husband's ysearch results to see if you were a match?

Hello everyone. Glad to be here.

I'm R1b1b2a1b5 (L21+)
Earliest paternal ancestor: John Boggess (ca. 1560-?) of Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, UK

My R1b line was in County Fermanagh, Ireland for most if not all of the 19th century. Counties Cavan, Leitrim, and Longford may also come into play, based on discussions with other researchers looking at the area regarding closely matching R1b Noble lines.

Ancestry likewise advised me that I am R1b but provided no details. Ancestry brags about having the latest technology, so why does Family Tree DNA offer some perspectives on my DNA that Ancestry doesn't? I see that FTDNA offers a special deal for Ancestry DNAers, but it isn't cheap enough after spending several hundred dollars on DNA research at Ancestry. It is rather frustrating. I'll just have to wait for Ancestry to bring itself up to standard. For now, I've posted my records at Y-Search to allow for some cross-pollination between DNA services.

Hi,
I am a R1b1b2a1b5 aka L21. Earliest paternal ancestor: Alexander Matheson (abt. 1771-1845) who emigrated from Sutherlandshire, Scotland to Rupertsland (now Manitoba,Canada) in 1823.

Hi everyone. New to this DNA thing. According to FTDNA I am R1b1b2.
Might be needing some help figuring this whole thing out...lol

I am R1b1b2a1b5. My earliest known paternal ancestor is John Marr (1773-1857) who was born in Culpepper County, Virginia.

I am R1b1b2a1b5. My earliest known paternal ancestor is John Watt born about 1786 in Aberdeenshire, Parish Aboyne and Glentannar, County Aberdeenshire, Parish number 170, Scotland. So far the DNA serch has lead me nowhere but am expandint to 64 markers.
Is this of use to anyone>

After further FamilyDNA testing -This is the result!

Your Haplogroup	Tests
R1b1a2a1a1b5	P312+ L23+ L176.2+ U152- U106- SRY2627- M65- M153- L21- L165- L1-

My previous classification was R1b1b2a1b5. My new haplogroup classification is
R1b1a2a1a1b4. I have tested through 67 markers and am now awaiting results of my upgrade from 67 to 111.

Tests I have taken:
L21+ P66- M37- M222- L96- L226- L2- L195- L193- L192.1- L159.2- L144- L130- L1- P314.2-

I am tested with Family tree DNA and they have me as below if anyone knows what all this means and where I fit in I would be greatful

	R1b1a2a1a1b4e

R-L144

P312+ L21+ L195+ Z255- Z253- U106- P66- P314.2- M37- M222- L96- L513- L226- L193- L159.2- L144- DF49- DF41- DF21-