Tj,

Denissen, v.2, p.1170 indicates Jacob married in Quebec to Josette ROBERTJEANNE [dit JEAN(NE)(S)] and the children are from this marriage (as does the book MARRIAGE RECORDS STE. ANNE CHURCH DETROIT 1701-1850. It is possible that Jacob 2m. to a DONAIS. However, Denissen only mentions a few DONAIS and they  m. into the BELANGER family. There is also the possibility that DONAIS was a dit name for ROBERTJEANNE, but no indication of that in Tanguay's listing of dit names.

One thing to do is look at the land records for Macomb Co., however, church records indicate the wife's surname is ROBERTJEANNE and that you can probably find the marriage in either the Loiselle or Rivest marriage indexes. Good luck & keep us informed.

PS. Josette, Josephe, Josephte & Josephine are all basically interchangeable.

Interesting site:

http://habitantsandvoyageurs.blogspot.com/2010/06/meanwhile-back-in...

Tj,

Noticed you are from GR. The FHC in East Lansing has both the Loiselle & Rivest indexes on film (don't need to order them). The Library of Michigan has the Loiselle index on fiche and the "blue" Drouin, parts in book form & fiche. Might be worth a visit.

Another interesting site:

http://www.quebecheritageweb.com/

Richard N.

Did you notice the two links I posted on the SINNETT family in the F-C surname sites in the Discussion group? One of them is a google book you can download. While the name is French the book deals with a branch that settled in England and spread from there. SINNETT is a "dit" name for LOISELLE for the F-C group.

Acadian census for 1671
http://www.zonecousinage.com/recensement/acadie1671.html

The zonecousinage.com site is great!  Just found a whole bunch of little tidbits that I was having problems locating before.  Thanks Jim!

Patricia Q.,

Not that many passenger lists exist. You may want to read about the time period and what the passengers had to go through (also check out the bibliography for leads) in Gilles Proulx's BETWEEN FRANCE AND NEW FRANCE: LIFE ABOARD THE TALL SAILING SHIPS (BTW CHARBONNEAU was not mentioned in the index).

See also:

Diane B.,

I do not have your couple in my LALONDE/LALANDE database.  You apparently have her baptism? Not sure what info you are looking for. Do you have the marriage date & place? Try looking in the Rivest & Loiselle marriage indexes if you don't, or if you can get access to the "blue" Drouin marriage index. Then use FamilySearch (free) or if you subscribe to Ancestry you can then look at the parish records to find marriage, baptisms and burials.

Thanks for the links - I will follow up on those.  In the meantime, you posted before I had a chance to get back in here - I did find the ships list for Olivier Charbonneau and his family.  They arrived on the Saint-Andre on 7 September 1659.

Now to check out the links you just posted!  thanks again!

According to the www.bms2000.org database (transcribed records)

At the parish of "St-Joseph, Montreal (Bordeaux)", Ile-de-Montreal, Quebec on the 18th of Sept. 1911 were married:

Georges Jean-Baptiste ROY, son of Ferdinand Roy and Georgiana Chabot, and

Marie-Reine Blanche LALANDE, daughter of Isaie Lalonde (deceased) and Zephirine Paiement.

I could not find the corresponding parish registers in Ancestry.com's listing of Drouin microfilms. I'm sure the church is listed, it's just not something I can find for some reason.

Best regards,

Shari Strahan

Genealogist

Hi Looking for birth of Charles Crawford born about 1815 Father John

Thank You

Diane, that one more generation did it, here is Isaie's lineage:

A couple of history books I really want to recommend are THE WHITE AND THE GOLD: THE FRENCH REGIME IN CANADA, by Thomas B. Costain & DAILY LIFE IN EARLY CANADA FROM CHAMPLAIN TO MONTCALM, by Raymond Douville & Jacques-Donat Casanova. While being history they are not dry reading and they mention a lot of the early settlers (you ancestors!)

Another book which I have not read yet but comes highly recommended is Willa Cather's SHADOWS ON THE ROCK. It is historical fiction and gives a good flavor of life in New France.

I noticed the following from Shari (thanks!) did not get posted here, so am adding it for future reference.  As she says neither the FamilySearch nor Ancestry have a complete index of the church records, however you can use the Loiselle marriage & the Rivest marriage indexes to help narrow down areas your family originate.

Tj,

I would say that means English as opposed to being French.

Hello,

I'm looking for information on Peter DeRosier/DeRosia born about 1822 in Quebec, died 1907 in Commonwealth, Wisconsin and his wife M. Rose Chatereau/Chartrand born 1825-1835 in Quebec, died 1888 in Commonwealth.

Their son Albert's Marriage license has Rose's maiden name as Chatereau but his Death Certificate has Rose's name as McDonald.  I've heard from other descendants that her name is Chartrand and that McDonald was her grandmother's maiden name. Also heard Peter's parents are named Francois and Sofrana but I haven't found anything in the Drouin collection to confirm any of this.

Chris -

1) Since you did not say you need to determine if Peter & Rose were married in Quebec (or Canada) or if in Wisconsin, you should be able to determine this is any children were born in Canada by the census records. You will need to look at all the children's marriage records to determine the mother's maiden name (there may have been two wives? or she may have been married twice)

2) Get the death records of Peter & Rose, hopefully that should give the parent's name.

3) If Peter & Rose were married in Quebec then look at the Loiselle and/or Fabien marriage indexes to determine a parish (you will need to know all the dit names for DeROSIER as well as keep in mind CHATEREAU/CHARTRAND & McDONALD possibilities. Once you have a parish you can check Drouin if you have a subscription to Ancestry, or Family Search or order in the parish films in through you local Family History Center which hopefully will provide you with further info such as baptisms, marriages and burials.

Good luck, Jim

Thanks Jim,

They were married in Quebec and their children were born in Quebec, Ontario, New York, and Michigan. I've ordered marriage certificates for 3 more of their children, hopefully they will all have the same maiden name for Rose.

Some cool pics:

http://www.johnfishersr.net/french_in_america_calendar.html

Meetings - French-Canadian Heritage Society of California:

http://www.fchsc.org/

Into the DNA thing? I admit it is completely over my head (our society is having a speaker next month, hopefully I can understand more). Here are some sites to help you understand the genetic makeup of our French-Canadian ancestors.

General -

http://www.frenchdna.org/

http://www.afgs.org/DNA_Research_French-Canadian.html

http://www.cyndislist.com/dna.htm

http://dna-forums.org/

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GENEALOGY-DNA/2001-10...

http://www.tsakanikas.net/Maternalclans.htm

http://www.cryptojews.com/WereCryptoJewsInNewFrance.htm

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/01/study-of-french-canadian-found...

http://www.bunnellgenealogybooks.citymaker.com/Violette_DNA_Lecture...

http://germaindoucet.com/canadian_anusim

Acadien DNA (maternal)
http://www.acadian-home.org/Founding-Mothers-of-Acadia.html
http://www.acadian-home.org/Haplogroups.html

DNA, genetic disorders
http://www.francoamericanconnection.com/fa-genetics/index.html

See also the articles in MICHIGAN’S HABITANT HERITAGE published by the French-Canadian Heritage Society of Michigan - “The Founder Effect in Quebec”, by Susan M. Colby (v.31, #4, Oct 2010) & “The Founder Effect in the Family: an mtDNA Mystery”, by Susan M. Colby (v.32, #1, Jan.2011).

For those who understand the techno jargon:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2805380

http://cjns.metapress.com/app/home/contribution.asp?referrer=parent...

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199201023260117

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9195230

http://hmg.oxfordjournals.org/content/11/2/185.full

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/232/4758/1646.abstract

http://www.kimballgenetics.com/tests-taysachs1.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7607649

http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2807%2963296-0

http://cjns.metapress.com/app/home/contribution.asp?referrer=parent...

I "sort of" understand the whole DNA thing, but can't test for the lines I really want to test for.  We had our Quinn DNA done a couple of years ago, and the results were a combination of exactly what we were expecting and a major surprise buried in them - our Quinn line carries markers of the Basque people - which adds proof to the old "ancient invasion by Spanish" of Ireland.

But I'd love to be able to test for my grandmother's line - there's where the French is at.  And there are none of her children still living today that can test for us.

But at least I've done enough research and gathered enough documents and information that I know the lines anyway.  Quebec records are the greatest!

Not sure how to pronounce a surname? Cool site here -

http://www.acapela-group.com/text-to-speech-interactive-demo.html

Hello everyone,

I'm a newby.  I search for the Durand, Généreux, and Plante family.  Also, since my mother comes from France... I've been digging through the archives of Orne, Normandy, France.

Welcome to all the new members. Hope you will share info with us - posting obits, adding to the surname listing, research sites of interest, queries, etc. Do you speak French? Do you have any family stories to share. Any F-C recipes handed down in your family? Sometimes sharing these things jogs memories for others in recording their family history.

Please feel free to post genealogies of families you are interested in. You can then point family members to the link. You can also always update your genealogy easily.

Thanks for your interest in this site. Jim.

I don't know if you know this but Family Search put online the church records of Québec and a little more.

Here's the link, hope it works.

https://www.familysearch.org/s/image/show#uri=http%3A//pilot.family...

Good evening everyone,

I am a new member and it will be very easy to detect my french accent (smile).

I am a Acadian from New-Brunswick.

I am not searching for anyone in particular, I just love genealogy.

I will now read everything in here and see what I can find.

Salut Lorraine, C'est bien que vous vous interessez a la genealogie! Moi, je descends de la famille Crevier, et de la famille Cazes (cote maternelle, toutes les deux) Mon nom de famille, Teitelbaum, n'est certainement ni francais ni canadien! De toute facon, me voila. bonnes recherches!

Teitelbaum

Porté en principe par des Juifs askhénazes, le nom signifie mot à mot "l'homme à la datte" ("Teytl", forme yiddish de l'allemand "Dattel" = datte). Teitel est également un nom de famille juif, tout comme Teitelbaum (= le dattier), écrit aussi Teitelbom, Teitelboim. Pour expliquer la symbolique de ces noms, on se réfère le plus souvent au verset 92:13 des Psaumes (ou 92:12 selon les versions) : "Le juste poussera (fleurira) comme un palmier, il se multipliera comme un cèdre du Liban".

Another listing of ships from France:

http://www.migrations.fr/departure_of_la_rochelle.htm