Medieval Genealogy

Any information or discussion related to persons who lived from 600 to 1600
  • James P. LaLone

    I've posted several queries on both the Royalty-Blue Blood Families & Medieval English Genealogy groups on this web site. If anyone has anything to add to them it would be appreciated, thanks, Jim.
  • James P. LaLone

    Hello, is anyone out there? 16 members & no idea who is searching whom. If we are to learn we must ask questions.

    Jim.
  • Will Johnson

    I did respond to your post on the Spencer family. I don't know anything about those other two groups you mentioned. Maybe you could post your detailed questions right here.
  • James P. LaLone

    Will, basically the two groups I mentioned overlap your subject matter/time period, I don't see any major reason to post the same messages here, all people have to do is use the search feature in the upper right hand corner. They are here on Genealogy Wise. I was mainly trying to get the other 14 people on this group to say something - anything. I cannot understand why people join groups like this and never say anything or contribute and then complain that they cannot find out anything on their ancestors. Genealogy is generally a two-way street, or at least the genealogists I have always hung around with are that way. I do appreciate your response re: the SPENCERS. I am descended from one of the 4 brothers who came over to the US. I am amazed how many have gotten the family traced back to nobility without any documentation. I read that there was a study done of genealogies posted on the internet that there was a 50% error rate. Just looking at a few of my families posted on RootsWeb-WorldConnect it is more like a 90+% error rate. It would be nice if we could all get stuff corrected and go from there. Sorry, I digress. Anyway, I am fascinated how people are related/connected & I just think it is sad people don't take advantage of sites like these. Thanks, Jim.
  • Randall Stackhouse

    I found information at ancestory.com on a Jane Spencer b.1465 Hodnel, [parish], Warwickshire, England, d. 12 Feb 1525 Canons Ashby, [parish], Northamptonshire, England. It said she was married to William Saunders b. Abt. 1461 Banbury, [parish], Oxfordshire, England, d. 12 Feb 1525. Has anyone come accross these names before?
  • Will Johnson

    Someone has made a mistake Randall. 12 Feb 1525 was the death date of Jane, not of either of her two husbands. Her first husband was William Saunders of Banbury, co Oxford. They had a daughter Alice who married John Cooke of Gidea Hall. They are ancestral to the British royal house.

    By her second husband William Cope, esq, cofferer (hair dresser) to Henry VII, she had two more children Anthony and John. Both of whom also have living descendants today.
  • Will Johnson

    By the way, we don't know what year Jane was born. That 1465 is a bad guess based on nothing :)
  • Randall Stackhouse

    Thanks for the info update! It looks like my line would be Alice Saunders who married John Cooke.
  • Will Johnson

    Anthony married Anne FitzWilliam and Beatrice married Richard Ogle
  • Randall Stackhouse

    Ok my line would be Anthony Cooke who married Anne Fitzwilliam (daughter of William Fitzwilliam and Anne Hawes) Where is the best place to check the dates for these people. Do you have any books you could recommend?
  • Will Johnson

    The best jump-page for sources on English medieval and pre-modern ancestors is http://www.countyhistorian.com/cecilweb/index.php/Sources Scroll about a third of the way down the page, and England will start.

    Second best is http://knol.google.com/k/genealogy-portal# and again scroll down a bit past the famous people and you'll start seeing the general references links.
  • Randall Stackhouse

    Thanks Will Johnson! I will check them out!
  • Ms ROBIN COFFMAN

    Can someone tell me how I can prove or dis prove that Ruth Blount born about 1600 , natural daughter of Sir Charles Blount annd Lady Penelope DDevereux, Lady Rich, is the same person called Ruth Devonshire who married Christopther Tighman. Ruth Blount did marry a Christopther Tighman but no dates or place given. Ruth Devonshire maried Christopther Tighman suposeably in Va and had sons Gibon and Roger born in Va. My Ruth Tighman died in 1690 in Maryland according to Ancestery .com. Ruth Blount Tighman died 1690 or 1694 no place is given Can someone help me.
  • Barb Dundas

    New to the group. Have been researching for 40 years following my father's research of 30 years. Love the Medieval ancestry and research.
    Cheers, Barb
  • Will Johnson

    The way I would do this, is to read all the published biographies of Penelope and Charles Blount and see what sources they cite. It's possible that one or both of them left wills, or that her other legitimate or illegitimate children did and mention your Ruth in them. That is how I would start.
  • James P. LaLone

    Love this site for the charts & coats of arms shown:

    http://racineshistoire.free.fr/ACC/ACC-frameset.html

    See "Lignages"

    Can't read French so not sure how accurate everything is but he does list sources and updates it.

  • James P. LaLone

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    French Soldiers Weighed Down by Armour at Agincourt
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8647621/French-sold...
  • Mary Ellen Aube

    I was immediately interested in this group because I have found several medieval ancestors.  Enough that it would be difficult to write them all down here.  One is John of Gaunt (Ghent). also, of his father Edward III.  I am still trying to work on all my lines back to the old countries.  I just got lucky and some of my ancestors were published in books because they were royalty or near royalty.  But it gets more exciting to find John Q public who isn't well known, and he is there anyway.  Thanks for listening.  I'll tell you more when things happen.
  • Mary Ellen Aube

    Does anyone have info on where in France the De La Noyes family came from before they migrated to Holland?  when they came to America they changed the spelling to Delano.  They were Huguenots  That is why they left France.  Thanks.
  • Sarah Hood (Sallie)

    I have alot of names but know little about them - And I have where they lived 

    Roiobert the Strong - died in 866 in Austria, Margaret de Tureeneor just the name De Tureen that lived in France in 1600Gualillaume I Tallifiefer I am a decendent of George Taylor the brother of the PReisdent and this is from the older part of there tree. Raymond de Vicount de Tureene 1074born in France and died in the Holy lands. I have several ancestors that were in the crusaides. And would like thename of a good book I could study that or any other thing relating to people from France, England and Ireland during that time. I have done my tree but do not know really what I have there. There are several of them that go back to the English and French Royalty and back to Pipin and his father Charlemagne which until last week I knew nothing about. I was a Florence whose family came from near Florence Ky and a Milligan who were from Oklahoma (INdian territory) and that is as far as I knew. Now I have found out some new things that are very new to me and would love to learn more about these people and I have many lines that go back to those dates. 

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