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Henry and Martha Haynes moved from England to Utah around 1880 help!
and his wife Martha 1833-1914 moved from Bilston Wolverhampton England.
along with some if not all of their children to Nephi, Juab, Utah, USA.
It seems such a massive leap to me for this family to make and I am wondering if anyone knows anything about them?
As far as I know they would have been ordinary working class people...
in the 1861 census Henry aged 28 was a labourer, so how did they manage financially etc to move all that way? and why did he move?
Because of the Utah and Salt Lake City connection on many of their deaths
I was also wondering if they became followers of the Mormon faith and subsequently moved for that reason
(but this is just a guess as i really dont know )
Noah Haynes 1855 - 1927
Eliza Emma Haynes 1864 - 1920
Hyrum Haynes 1869 - 1953 died in Las Vegas
I also found it interesting that the last child had a middle name
which is the same as her grandmothers maiden name!
Edith was the last child as far as I can tell and
the only one actually born outside of the Uk
therefore I am guessing that they moved somewhere between 1876 an 1882?
there are other brothers and sisters but I dont know if they too went to Utah as I dont have any death details for these people
I dont have any acess to any overseas records so cant trace them myself
but I am surely intrigued and would love to know some more about this family
hope someone can help?
thank you
Teresa
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Permalink Reply by Chanelle Jones on
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I'm doing some local history of Farmington, Utah and was wondering if your Henry and Hyrum Haynes could the founders and presidents to a copper/gold mine there. Do you have any ideas? Do you know what Hyrum was doing in Las Vegas when he died? Or what his profession was? They are mentioned in newspapers with their partners of Bogan, Hayes {maybe a misprint? The gentleman was Fred Hayes}, and Culmer. They were hoping on opening a mine as large as the current Bingham mine and I'm trying to learn more about the spot ~ any stories or such. Plus, if what I've found helps you then that is always good too. Please let me know if you think these might be the same people.
Thanks!
Chanelle
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Permalink Reply by Teresa Berrsley on
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thanks for contacting me Chanelle,
its real good to hear from you.
I am very interested in any information about this family
but I am sorry that I cant say one way or another
if these are the people you are looking for ;o(
i only found out a few days ago about Henry and Martha
and their emigration story, Henry also had a brother Richard
who made the trip in 1643 on the "Amazon"
along with his wife Eliza Brown and his children
so if there is any connection with a Henry Haynes that might help.
I would love to know how you get on with your research and now I will try to find
any reference to his business adventure if he had any myself.
it does seem a possibility of the spelling mistake doesnt it!
Hope all will become clear very soon.
all the best
Teresa
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After doing some more research, I believe I have a different person. The Henry Haynes I'm looking for was a boiler maker, was born in Rhymney, Wales in 1827 and died in 1900 in Salt Lake City. I'm sorry if I jumped the gun as I just found more information about him this morning. I hope you find the information you need on your lines. I understand how it goes in this hobby.
Good luck!
Chanelle
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Permalink Reply by Kate Steere on
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Hi Chanelle-
In 1920, Henry and Martha's son Hyrum, was working as a mason in Utah, he was 50. It's possible one of his siblings had a son Hyrum. Do you have further information on the company?
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Found that Noah and Elizabeth had at least three children:
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Noch Haynes
[Noah Haynes]
Age in 1910: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Home in 1910: Salt Lake City Ward 5, Salt Lake, Utah
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1897
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Noch Haynes 55
Elizabeth Haynes 54
Walter C Haynes 21
William W Haynes 19
Earnest E Haynes 16
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Salt Lake City Ward 5, Salt Lake, Utah; Roll T624_1607; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 141; Image: 731.
Ernest married a Mennie and they had at least 2 children, Ernest died in 1987 in Utah, but it appears he spent many years in San Francisco.
1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Ernest Haynes
Home in 1930: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
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Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Mennie
Race: White
Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest Haynes 35
Mennie Haynes 35
Robert Haynes 11
Ernest Haynes 10
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California; Roll 204; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 270; Image: 678.0.
In San Francisco, Ernest was a mail carrier, and from the 1930 census, it indicates that he fought in WW1.
Earnest and Mennie's son Ernest enlisted in WW2:
Name: Ernest W Haynes
Birth Year: 1920
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Utah
State of Residence: California
County or City: San Francisco
Enlistment Date: 12 May 1942
Enlistment State: California
Enlistment City: San Francisco
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life
Education: 1 year of college
Civil Occupation: Semiskilled occupations in fabrication of metal products, n.e.c.
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 69
Weight: 138
and I believe Ernest, Jr. died in San Frnacisco in 1987, no indication of a marriage yet-
Name: Ernest Haynes
SSN: 559-01-5110
Last Residence: 94110 San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States of America
Born: 24 Feb 1920(Utah)
Died: Dec 1985
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)
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Also found a possible match for Caroline Haynes, there is a couple on FindAGrave, Dewitt T and Caroline H Dunlavy-
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=35564747&...
I believe her first husband was a Joseph Chevrill(sp?) but I haven't really confirmed it for myself yet. :) If this was her first husband, she had children: Violet, Albert and Harry.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Carrie Chivrell
[Carrie Cherrell]
Home in 1900: Ogden Ward 2, Weber, Utah
Age: 20
Birth Date: Aug 1879
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1884
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 2
Mother: How many children: 2
Spouse's name: Joseph
Marriage Year: 1896
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 4
Occupation: View on Image
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Chivrell 27
Carrie Chivrell 20
Violet Chivrell 2
Albert Chivrell 7/12
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Ogden Ward 2, Weber, Utah; Roll T623_1688; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 187.
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hi i to am researching the haynes tree.
my mothers great aunt was edith mary haynes who married thomas george reid in salt lake city 1898.
her brother sidney haynes stayed in uk,it seems from the info i have henry haynes was their grandfather.i am trying to find also how they managed to travel so far,this has been quite a revelation to the family as we were not aware there was such a salt lake conection.sidney had quite a few children and his grandchildren and great grandchildren are mainly settled in newcastle and windsor uk.
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Hello, I have also been doing much research about Henry Haynes. I really believe that this is the same Henry Haynes that was involved with the mining operations in Farmington Utah. Henry's son, Hyrum, was even more involved with the mining operations. I have collected affidavits, mining deeds and more about their mining operations in Farmington.
The records that I have, and using the date of birth for Hyrum that you listed above, show that Hyrum was put to work at the age of 17 in the mining claims that he and his father owned.
If you want any more information please let me know.
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hi many thanks for your e-mail if you could e-mail me any more info that would be great.it is so interesting to hear of this side of the family that no one knew about.it is good to know that they had a good life out in Utah,would be lovely to trace any living relatives.
many thanks
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While I am not exactly sure how Henry (Hyrum's father) first got involved into mining, I do have solid evidence that Hyrum was the first to buy several mining claims in the Farmington Utah area on January 7, 1884. The first claim he had was named the Rhymney Mine.
It seems that Hyrum was convinced that these mining claims in Farmington Utah were so promising that he also bought the water rights to a "Spring of Water" for the explicit purpose of mining at the Rhymney Mine during the year of 1885. I don't know the exact location of this spring because the directions are incredibly vague.
Hyrum probably did some prospecting in the next decade on the Rhymney Mine even though I haven't found solid proof of any work being done on the mining claims until the year 1897. But the next affidavit I have showed that December 21st,1897 was when Hyrum and his associate, H.W. Owen, made a visit to the Davis County Courthouse to make a record about the Rhymney Mine. The record shows that they bought several more claims, machinery rails, boarding house, supplies and tunneled the equivalent of 1000 cubic feet of rock.
Eventually, Hyrum leased out many of the mining claims to a John Bogan who apparently was a "Veteran" miner. The lease states that Hyrum, who owned and was president of the Rhymney Gold & Copper Mining Company, was to retain 15% of net profits from all the mining claims that were mined by John Bogan.
John Bogan did an incredible amount of work on the mines. Hyrum seems to disappear after the indenture was made as there is little record to be found of him being personally involved with the mines from this point.
I think it is safe to assume that Hyrum, and probably Henry, were very well off in Salt Lake City. In fact, and I am trying to find more evidence of this, but it seems during the late 1800's, the Rhymney Gold & Copper Mining Company was incorporated and sold to several gentleman. The new president was J.H. Moyle, who was the Democratic candidate for governor of Utah a the time. R.W. Barnes, who was the owner of Barnes Bank (which is now bankrupt and was headquartered in Kaysville, Utah) was the treasurer. John Bogan was the general manager. They started out on the stock market with 400,000 shares valued at 10 cents per share.
An incredible story which only gets more interesting as John Bogan became involved with the mining operations.
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