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Hi I'm a descendant of Philibena Dirr's brother in law Martin Shofner. Could you tell me how you're descended?
My line is:
Susie Helme (me)
Josephine Coleman Douglas
Josephine Hutton Douglas
Pierre Allen Colmean Hutton
Anna Belle Shofner
John Shofner + Isabella Catherine Beavers
Martin Shoffner + Catherine Cooke Roundtree
Michael Christian Shoffner + Margaretha Fogleman
Susie Helme
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Permalink Reply by Brownie MacKie on
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Michael Christian Shoffner + Margaretha Fogleman
Martin Shoffner + Catherine Cooke Roundtree
Margaret Shoffner + Phillip Burrow
Hiram Burrow + Lydia House
Sarah Anne Burrow + Henry Newton Carter
Rosalie Tennessee Carter + James Williamson Younger
Williamson Henry Younger + Stella Brown McKisick
Lillamae Younger + Grady Ellis
Brownie Ellis (me) + (1) Morris Norman High (2) James David MacKie
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Permalink Reply by Bryan Shofner on
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Brownie,
Do you have anything on the other sons of Michael Christian Shoffner?
I am looking for info on a Henry Shofner born 23 Aug 1755 died 28 Aug 1847. I am looking for hard data that he was a son of Michael
Bryan
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Michael married Margaretja Fogleman, daughter of George Fogleman and Catherine Curtiss. Margaretja was born on Aug 3, 1724 in Frankfurt-On-Main, Germany and died in Aug 1796 in Orange County, NC at age 72.
Children from this marriage were:
3 M i. George Shofner was born in 1752 and died in 1820 at age 68.
4 M ii. Michael Shofner was born in 1752 and died in 1846 at age 94.
+ 5 M iii. Henry Shofner was born on Aug 23, 1755 in Mecklenbury County, NC; Possibly Germany Or Switzerland; Private In Militia, Revolut. War and died on Aug 28, 1847 in Green Co. KY; Buried Saloma, Taylor County, KY at age 92.
6 F iv. Margaretha Shofner was born in 1757 and died in 1827 at age 70.
7 M v. Martin Shofner was born in 1758 and died in 1838 at age 80.
8 M vi. Frederick Shofner was born in 1761 and died in 1846 at age 85.
9 F vii. Eva Shofner was born in 1764 and died in 1767 at age 3.
10 F viii. Polly Shofner was born in 1766 and died in 1767 at age 1.
11 M ix. Peter Shofner was born in 1769 and died in 1836 at age 67.
5. Henry Shofner was born on Aug 23, 1755 in Mecklenbury County, NC; Possibly Germany Or Switzerland; Private In Militia, Revolut. War and died on Aug 28, 1847 in Green Co. KY; Buried Saloma, Taylor County, KY at age 92.
General Notes: Revolutionary War, joined the mounted militia in Mecklenberg Co, NC as a Private.
(Pension Application in Green County, KY)
According to DAR records:
He served in Capt. William Huston's Company, Col. Francis Locke's Regiment, General Rutherfords's Brigade. He marched from Charleston to Savannah to Turkey Creek. He served under Capt. John Starnes, in Col. Davidson's Regiment as a light horseman from 1779 to 1781, in which he furnished his own horse and frequently his own provisions. He was engaged in the suppression of the Tories while the British occupied Charlotte in Mecklenburg County. In 1780 he volunteered in Capt. Joseph Shin's Company, Col. Smith's Regiment. He served in the Wilmington Expedition. He was crossing the Savannah River to engage the enemy on the other side when General Nash came galloping up and dashed into the river while retreating. He was discharged by Col. Smith on the Cape Fear River near Raleigh, NC, after the surrender of Cornwallis on October 19, 1781.
Time line by Debbie Raque:
Date Event Source
Aug. 23, 1755BornRevolutionary War Pension Papers
Nov. 1778 Drafted in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina for Rev. War; Rev. War Pension Papers
May 1779 Discharged Turkey Creek on the Savannah River, South Carolina
Served 8 months under Captain John Starner; Rev. War Pension Papers
1780Served in Company under Captain Joseph Shin, Regiment Rev. War Pension Papers
under Colonel Smith
After 1780 Served 3 months under General Rutherford. Discharged at
Cape Fear River, North Carolina; Rev. War Pension Papers
Aug. 1, 1780 Marriage to Clara Hart in Rowan County, North Carolina; North Carolina Marriage Records
Sep. 8, 1782 Son David is born in North Carolina; Barren Co. Ky. Vital Statistics
About 1783 Son Robert is born in North Carolina 1850 Taylor Co. Ky. Census
1785Son? Charles H. is born. {Possibly Pennsylvania}
Jan. 8, 1786Daughter Catherine is bornLaRue Co. Cemeteries
Jan. 18, 1787Daughter Elizabeth is bornGerry Neveaux information
1792Henry is in Mercer County, KentuckyMercer Co. Ky. Tax List
Mar.16, 1792Daughter Sarah "Sally" is bornLaRue Co. Cemeteries
1794Daughter Margaret is born
1799Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1800Son Jacob David is born in Green County, Kentucky1850 Taylor Co.
Census
1800Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1801Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
Nov. 11, 1801Daughter Chloe is born in Green County, KentuckyGrave
1802Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
Dec. 2, 1802 Henry's on bond for son Robert marrying Elizabeth Green Co. Ky. Marriages 1793-18362
Stone in Green County, Kentucky
1803Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
Dec. 29, 1803 Henry gives consent for daughter Elizabeth to Green Co. Ky.; Marriages 1793-1836
marry William Pringle in Green County, Kentucky
1804Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1805Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1806Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1806Daughter Anna is born1850 Taylor Co. Census?
Oct. 17, 1807 Daughter Sarah married William L. Martin in Green Co.; Green Co. Ky. Marriages 1793-1836
1808Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
Nov. 5, 1808 Henry's on bond for daughter Catherine marrying Robert
Rachford in Green County, Kentucky ; Green Co. Ky. Marriages 1793-1836
July 11, 1809 Son David marries Polly Gaddie in Green County, Kentucky; GreenCo. Ky. Marriages 1793-1836
1809Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1810Henry on Green Co. Census w/males 011001 & females 31101; 1810 Green Co.Census
1811Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
July 8, 1812Henry gives consent for daughter Margaret to marry John
Compton in Green County, Kentucky; Green Co. Ky. Marriages 1793-1836
1812Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1813Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1814Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1815Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1816Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1817Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1818Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1819Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1820Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
Jan. 24, 1820James & Henry Pringle are bound to Henry to learn the art
& mistery of farming & Cloe Pringle the art of spinning; Green Co. Order Bk. 6, p. 466-467
1820Henry on Green Co. Census w/males 110101 & females 21101; 1820 Green Co.Census
1821 Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1822 Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List.
July 17, 1822 Daughter Chloe marries Thomas Daniel in Green County, Ky.; GreenCo. Ky. Marriages 1793-1836
Oct. 7, 1822 Son Jacob marries Abigail Gaddie in Green County, Kentucky; GreenCo. Ky. Marriages 1793-1836
Dec. 11, 1822 Henry's on bond for daughter Ann marrying Johnson Gaddie in
Green County, Kentucky; Green Co. Ky. Marriages 1793-1836
1823Henry is in Green County, Kentucky with 200 acres; Green Co. Ky. Tax List
1824-26No Tax lists for these years
Mar. 21, 1826 An Indenture of Apprenticeship for Isham & Isaac Gill to Henry; Green Co. Order Bk. 8, p. 23
1827Henry is in Green County, Kentucky with 149 acres; Green Co. Ky. Tax List
1828Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
July 21, 1828Henry is called into court to show cause why Isham & Lewis Gill shouldn't be
taken from him & bound to some suitable person; Green Co. Order Bk. 8, p. 119
1829Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1830Henry is in Green County, KentuckyGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1830Henry on Green Co. Census w/males1830 Green Co. Census
1831-33No Tax Lists for these years
Aug. 21, 1832Henry's in open court stating Revolutionary War service; Rev. War Pension Papers
Oct. 15, 1832Henry's released from the indenture binding Isham & Lewis Gill to him to learn the art of farming & also that he pay the costs of the motion of James Gill to release the
said infants at last court. Green Co. Order Bk. 8, p. 425
1834Henry is in Green County, Kentucky with 137 acres; Green Co. Ky. Tax List
1835Henry's not listed on the Green Co. Tax ListGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1836Henry's not listed on the Green Co. Tax ListGreen Co. Ky. Tax List
1840Henry on Green Co. Census w/males1840 Green Co. Census
Sept. 20, 1847Henry Rachford & A. Hardin are in open court telling that Henry
died Aug. 28th 1847; Green Co. Order Bk. 10, p. 124
Nov. 22, 1847Katharine Rachford is named administrator of Henry's estate
LaRue Co. Court Record
---------------------------------------------This was all on Google Search. There is a name of one of the researchers in the middle of all this. Good luck. :-) Brownie
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One more!
Children of Clara Cloe Hart and Henry Shofner are:
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David Jim Shofner was born 8 SEP 1782 in North Carolina, and died 2 JUN 1859 in Barren Co, Ky. He married Polly B. Gaddie 11 JUL 1809 in Green Co. Ky, daughter of George Gaddie and Elizabeth Prather. She was born 28 APR 1783 in near Richmond, Va., and died 2 JUN 1866 in Metcalfe County, Ky; buried Nunn-Boules Cem..
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Robert Shofner , Sr was born 1783 in Rowan County, NC, and died 1856 in Saloma, Taylor County, KY. He married Elizabeth Stone 2 DEC 1802 in Green Co. Ky, daughter of Thomas Stone and Elizabeth Corder. She was born ABT 1777 in Albermarle County, Va, and died 27 JUN 1855 in Taylor County, Ky.
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Charles Hart Shofner was born 1785 in Rowan County, NC, and died 1888 in Green County, KY. He married Elizabeth 'Betsey' Jones 30 DEC 1810 in Green Co. Ky.
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Catherine Shofner was born 8 JAN 1786 in NC, and died 17 MAY 1868 in LaRue County, Ky; buried Grimes Fam Cem, LaRue County, Ky. She married Robert Rachford 5 NOV 1808 in Green Co. Ky, son of Hugh Rachford and Jane ?. He was born ABT 1780 in PA, and died ABT 1834 in Hardin County, Ky.
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Elizabeth Shofner was born 18 JAN 1787 in Green County, Ky; last child born 1823, and died 1 JUN 1874 in Richland, Keokuk County, IA; buried in Clay Cem., Washington County, IA. She married William L. Pringle 29 DEC 1803 in Green Co. Ky, son of Thomas Pringle and Susannah ?. He was born 9 APR 1785, and died 1850 in Warren, IN.
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Sarah Shofner was born 16 MAR 1792 in Mercer Co, Ky, and died 30 SEP 1886 in Hodgenville, LaRue County, Ky; buried Red Hill Cem.. She married William L. Martin 17 OCT 1807 in Green Co. Ky, son of Hartwell Martin and Sallie Porter. He was born 26 MAY 1782 in Charles City County, VA; came to Green County in 1805, and died 30 JUL 1857 in LaRue County, Ky.
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Margaret Shofner was born 1794 in Ky, and died AFT 1880 in Washington, Missouri. She married John Compton 8 JUL 1812 in Green Co. Ky, son of Richard Compton and Elizabeth Cumming. He was born 1 MAY 1793 in Woodford Co, Ky, and died 16 MAY 1850 in Washington Co, Mo. She married Robert Springer 16 OCT 1850 in Washington County, MO.
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Lucinda Shofner was born 1797, and died BET 1880 AND 1890. She married Thomas Wright 22 MAR 1819 in Green County, KY. He was born in ; they moved to Clay County, MO, and died BEF 1827. She married John Cannon Skaggs 10 MAR 1827 in Green Co. Ky, John Skaggs & Jacob Shofner on bond, son of William Skaggs and Margaret Hoover. He was born ABT 1805 in Green County, KY, and died 4 SEP 1856 in Taylor County, KY.
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Jonathan 'Jona' Shofner was born ABT 1798, and died AFT 1880 in Taylor County, Ky. He married Nancy Price 9 JAN 1825 in Green Co. Ky.
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Jacob David Shofner was born ABT 1800 in Green Co. Ky, and died AFT 1880. He married Abigail Gaddie 7 OCT 1822 in Green Co. Ky (date of bond), daughter of Frances E. Gaddie and Judith Bocock. She died ABT 1840 in Taylor Co, Ky. He married Lucy Jane Thompson 3 OCT 1846 in Green Co. Ky (date of bond), daughter of James Thompson and Elizabeth Cory. She was born 1823 in Green Co. Ky, and died 1896.
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Chloe Shofner was born 11 NOV 1801 in Green Co. Ky, and died 10 NOV 1884 in Harrison Co, MO. She married Thomas Daniel 17 JUL 1822 in Green County, Ky, son of William Daniel and Mary'Polly' Martin. He was born 31 AUG 1799 in VA.
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Anna Shofner was born ABT 1805 in Green County, Ky, and died AFT 1880 in Taylor County, Ky. She married Johnson Barrus Gaddie 11 DEC 1822 in Green Co. Ky, son of Frances E. Gaddie and Judith Bocock. He was born 29 JAN 1797 in Madison County, Ky, and died 30 MAR 1875 in Taylor Co, Ky.
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Thanks, I do have all that. I am looking for a document that shows the link of Michael Christian and his son Henry. like a will, record of birth...anything
I would think there would be a DAR document floating around somewhere that Henry would link them? I do have his Revolutionary War pention record, but it's not in there.
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You might not find a record of birth. But surely in all the above records there's a hint somewhere that Michael C. Shofner was his father....like the family tree of someone else for example. Look up all the records on all his children...they were bound to mention grandfather somewhere.
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Henry shofner who married Chloe/Clara Hart was not a son of Michael Shoffner Sr (Johann Michael Schaffert).
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I'm a direct descendant of Michael Shofner/Margaretha Fogleman. My grandmother was Mary Emma Shofner. Her line went back this way: Robert Christopher-Wilson Brown-Christopher-Martin-Michael.
My interest is in Catherine Cooke. Please tell me where the name Roundtree comes from. She was only 18 when she married Martin Shofner, so I doubt that she had been married before, and that name isn't on most other genealogical sites..
I have another question: Can someone tell me how to view a copy of Martin and Catherine's marriage bond. in Duplin County, NC? There would have been a bondsman's signature on it, and that would have been a close relative, so it should be a clue as to her family.
How do you think Martin and Catherine met since Duplin county is quite a ways from Alamance County? She must have been brought up in Duplin, because that's where they married. If so, who were her parents?
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The marriage record is below. I have not been able to find her parents, but I do not think it was John cook and Catherine Kierman, as they lived in Tryon NY and unlike the Shoffners were Loyalists, nor John Cook and Christian Faire, although they lived in Duplin.
I think that the man we are looking for was the one who 3 Feb 1779 signed ‘a petition to the General Assembly from the inhabitants of Duplin County asking that no part of Duplin County be annexed to any new county or to any existing county’;[1] was taxed in Duplin county 1783[2]; was the best man and George Huffman and Betsey Shoffner’s 15 Aug 1804 Orange County wedding[3]; and 20 Feb 1808 purchased or mortgaged for £100 a slave Peggy from Peter M Fogleman Sr.[4]
. Name upon marriage Catherine Roundtree from Burrow Genealogy, kengena@swbell.net. Roundtree from The Compendium of American Genealogy, Vol. II. She was 18 when she married Martin, but 17 would not have been too young to marry in those days, so she could have had a first husband who died. I have seen some family trees listing Catherine as Martin's second marriage, and early settlers who married a second time usually married someone for whom it was also a second time, but I think this is wrong, and I think the Roundtree connection is wrong. Bear in mind, this would have been the very years that revolution broke out, so a first husband could have died in action. However, riding cross-county to woo her would have been frought with danger as the area was the site of many battles and musters. Of all the Shoffner children, this seems to be the only marriage to a non-German, which makes me think she probably was a German, and we should be looking for a Johannes Koch immigrant for father (there were thousands and 3 John Cooks who settled in Duplin).
Family history says her father was John Cook. Also that she was a descendant of Francis Cooke of the 'Mayflower' (which I don't believe, I think we are looking for someone who was an ethnic German, a Johannes Koch).
I'm looking at 3 John Cooks in 1783 Duplin 'John of Isle Creek', 'John on Maxwell' and 'John on S Creek'. Today Island Creek and Maxwell Mill Pond are in Duplin; South Creek is in Beaufort County. In which district were these places in 1783? In 1784-1786 Duplin there was John of Stallin's District, of Kenan's District and of Southerland district and John Cooke in Stallin's District. I'm ruling out John of Kenan's District as this was a young family, husband not old enough to have had a daughter of marriagable age. 1790 there were 2 John Cooks and John Cook Sr in Wilmington District, Duplin. John Sr might be the John Cook (William, Reuben, William, William Philip, Richard) that was b 1714 Isle of Wight VA died 1799 Duplin and married a Mary.John Cook, residing in Duplin, is not likely to have attended their church, although Martin would surely have married another Lutheran. and as far as I can make out, all the Germans on their wagon train settled in Orange county or around, so the Duplin connection remains a mystery. However, Christina Cook 10 Aug 1763-6 Nov 1825 married Frederick Shoffner, and Rebecca Cook, married Martin’s nephew Austin Shoffner, so they were probably all from the same family. If she was descended from the Mayflower Cook, it could have been that both families wanted to make a dynastic marriage (I have found no other instances like this, though; they almost all married Germans)
U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
Name Catherine Cook Gender Female Birth Place Gr Birth Year 1762 Spouse Name Martin Shofner Spouse Birth Place Gr Spouse Birth Year 1758 Marriage State of TN Number Pages 4 Household Members Name Age Catherine Cook Martin Shofner
I have for Mary Emma, who was my 3rd cousin 2x removed: Spouse & Children
Jordan Franklin 'Joe' Watson
1874–1958
Clyde Watson
1896–1982
Robert Collins Watson
1900–1900
Jordan Floyd Watson
1901–1994
William Ordis Watson
1903–1956
Lois Marie 'Low' Watson
1910–1990
John Rollin Watson
1916–1974
Mary J Watson
1920–
which is your parent? Pls give me details of your family for my book (I won't publish any details of living people) write me at susiehelme@blueyonder.co.uk
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Actually, her being Roundtree makes sense, because it would explain how Martin met her. She could have been a young bride living in Alamance County, and when her husband died she might have gone back to her parents in Duplin, and then Martin went there to marry her. Family records say she was from Alamance. She couldn't have been married very long to her 1st husband, because she had no child, and they usually had a child in the 1st year of marriage, and we can agree she was fertile, since she later had 10 children. She could have become a Lutheran after marriage to Martin.
I was unable to open the marriage record.
Their children's names were English and they married non-German-sounding spouses. I think the children's names could be a clue as to her family members. There's a John and a Margaret ( after Margaret MacRae?)
I am intrigued by the Henry Cook Jr. who witnessed Michael's will. He must have been a relative, and his father must have been Henry Cook, Sr. He might have been Catherine's brother or cousin or even her father. And he must have moved to Alamance County by then, also. And Christina Cook--had Catherine's whole family moved to Alamance ?
My father was Jordan Floyd Watson. His father (my grandfather) was called "Jord" pronounced "Jerd" , not "Joe". Clyde was James Clyde. I never heard Lois called "Lo". The last one was Mary Jordine. she died in 2011. Most of them were called by their middle names, which I assume was a southern custom. I have extensive information about all of them if you want it.
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Many of these sites call her Catherine Roundtree Cooke. That doesn't sound like she was born Cooke. Rather, it sounds like Roundtree was her maiden name. and Cooke the name of her 1st husband. .Or that Roundtree was her middle name, which would have been odd for a girl at that time. Or that she was the child of her mother's first marriage , and Cooke was her stepfather--hence two last names. In any case, it's very curious.
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Permalink Reply by EVELYN DAVIS COURTNEY on
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Michael Christian Shoffner and Anna Margaretha Fogleman were my 5th great grandparents;
4th - Martin Shofner, Jr and Philabena Duirr
3rd - Daniel Shofner and Elizabeth Warren
2nd - Nelson Walton and Marticia Shofner
great grandparents - Charles Brown McHenry and Cordelia Ann Walton
grandparents - William Thomas McHenry and Louisa Frances Wakefield
parents - Ollie P Davis and Tommie G Davis
me
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