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Permalink Reply by Ross James Stacey on July 28, 2009 at 2:00am

Hi, I am trying to find the birthplace of robert Shueard. We believe he was born in 1813 in England. He came to South australia in 1838 aboard the Siren from Hobart.
He may have been the convict no.1198 Robert Seward who was convicted at The Norfolk epiphany assizes in 1830 and transported to Tasmania. However, there are doubts about this, most notably the description in convict records which said he was 5'7" tall whereas he was known as being over 6' tall in S.A, and his progeny were all very large people. There is also a record of a Robert Seward dying in 1890 in the Newtown Charitable Institution, although that man was recorded as being 66 y.o, whereas our ancestor was 77 in 1890.
WE have been unable to find any Robert Shueard (Shuard or Seward) born in UK about 1813 using a subscription in Ancestry.
I have also checked the UK census to see if there were any family of the right age and came across people who were born in Spetchley . However, checking the Mormons microfilm of that town did not reveal any males born around 1813..
Can anyone suggest any other avenues to investigate.

Permalink Reply by Co Ordinator on August 23, 2009 at 6:41am

Hi Ross
A bit late but done a bit of fishing and put it on a word doc for you to look at

wayne

Permalink Reply by Ross James Stacey on August 23, 2009 at 11:35am

Hi Wayne,
Thank you very much for your efforts.
There are 4 or more of us who have been researching the Shueards/Stacey for over 20 years. We have the Book-Toilers of the hills and have visited "Bushlands, and theShueard property. There is a mistake in "Toilers", it was Mary who arrived on "Trusty". Robert was on "Syren" or most probably "Siren". I thought at one stage he was born in Germany and put that on a Family tree on the IGI site. It is an error but I can't delete it. Robert Senr. was charged with theft of an ox together with some known convicts from Tasmania, this is what lead us to believe he may have been the convict robert Seward no 1198 in Tasmania. Unfortunatley there is no proof of this and the description of the convict at 18 yo is 5''7" tall whereas we know he was well over 6' tall.
Our Brickwall is his birth. Family stories are that he was from Kent and that his nick name was Black Bob, a convict. The birth of Robert Seward, the convict has not been found either.--Are the one and the same?
Spelling of his name changed between 1848 and 1870 from Shuard to Shueard-maybe trying to distance from his past?
The discrepancy of 10 years on his marriage is that he registered his marriage in 1848, whereas they had been living together as man and wife since 1838.
The birth and pre 1838 history of Robert Shueard are a big ongoing mystery, and of course our biggest Brickwall.

Permalink Reply by John Patten on July 29, 2009 at 6:25pm

Hi, I'm researching a potential link to Tasmania and am hoping someone might be able to do a TAS BDM lookup for me, please. Margaret/Maggie THOMAS, an Aboriginal girl born in about 1815. Lived in the Launceston area. Was living with William PATTEN and his wife (name unknown). Margaret THOMAS was said to be pregnant at the age of 16 in 1831. I'm looking for births, deaths and marriages on both the THOMAS and PATTEN lines, especially a potential link seeing Margaret THOMAS marrying or partnering a member of the PATTEN family.

Thanks,
John

Permalink Reply by Co Ordinator on July 29, 2009 at 8:59pm

Hi John
I have put some findings and sites to look up on a word doc
hope that this will be of help in your searching
I donot have the BDM's but there are plenty listed who would only
be too happy to look for you, all you have to do is ask.
Wayne

Permalink Reply by Co Ordinator on July 30, 2009 at 7:07am

Hey John I found another one that has heaps of thomas/patten's here

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8

same site different No

Wayne

Permalink Reply by Ellie on September 16, 2009 at 6:32pm

Hi John, I am not sure if this is any help to you
DALRYMPLE, DOLLY (c.1808-1864), Aboriginal matriarch, was born in the Furneaux Islands in Bass Strait, daughter of George Briggs, a sealer from Bedfordshire, England, and Woretemoeteyenner (also known as Pung or Margaret), who was the daughter of Mannarlargenna, a chieftain from the north-east of Van Diemen's Land. One of two Aboriginal women abducted by Briggs, she bore him three children before he sold her to another sealer John Thomas for a guinea.

Ref : http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/AS10118b.htm

The Briggs tree is well documented on the internet, John Thomas is also known as John Thompson so look under both surnames I have a fair bit of info but mainly from Dolly down, Cheers Ellie

Permalink Reply by jennifer suzanne dawson on August 5, 2009 at 11:20pm

Hi Wayne .I need help with my Carter family. I have to go carefully this time as I lost the last lot.
Father. John Thomas Carter B.1921 Richmond Vict.D.2005.Marroonda Vict. M Lilian Joyce Campbell 1943.
G.Father Thomas Patrick Carter B1890 Hawthorn Vic.D 1960 Bendigo Vict. M Beatrice May Kidd 1920
G.Gfather William Carter B1854 Leistershire U.K. D ?? M Margaret Higgins 1879
G.G.Grandfather George Carter B 18???? M Elizabeth Sweett ???
I know William and Margaret married straight off the Northhampton N.S.W. in 1879.ST. Augstines Church Balmain.
On M.cert. Wm.and George are Brickmoulders/pointers/layers.,from leistershire,U.K.
Margaret B. 1856 Tipperary Irld. I have come up with blanks in U.K.and Irland and with no living relatives that I know of I dont know where to go next. Hoping anyone can give the tiniest bit of information, it will lead to others with same interest.
I also have a huge amount of info on other surnames that myself and my late Uncle have done in the past. I can do a list if you like . There are hundreds as you can imagine with all 4 Family names involved.
Hope I haven't rambled to much and you can sort this .Kindest Regards to all . Jennifer.
I have 1840 for Georges' B but this is incompatable with Wms. B in 1854??
Wm. and Margarets' first child was George Henry B 1880 at Geelong Vict . 3 others inc. Thomas patrick B. Hawthorn Vict. On reading this back it seems to have slipped a space ,but i'm not doing it again.
Carter, Kidd, Haysom,Campbell,tingay + others I dont know. Husband Dawson,Schoemaker,Mcleod,Cox, Furnelll

Permalink Reply by Co Ordinator on August 10, 2009 at 2:27am

Hi jennifer
I have put some info on a word doc for you

have fun

Wayne

Permalink Reply by Heather McIntosh on August 15, 2009 at 10:47pm

Sorry for repeating this message but I didn't see this area before.
I am looking for any information re family of James Graham McIntosh b. 1879 ( Army papers say he was born in Rutherglen, Glasgow.) According to his 2nd marriage cert, parents were Andrew McIntosh and Martha Caldwell but I'm not sure now after other passed on info was given to me.. James came to Australia(year unknown). His second wife was Cecilia Bannister( Her parents were Henry Bannister and Mary Ann Whelan) they lived in Brisbane Qld. James and Cecilia had children in Victoria Australia. I'm interested in finding out about his family if anyone can help I'd be more than grateful.

Permalink Reply by Co Ordinator on August 16, 2009 at 3:44am

Hello Heather
I have attached a word doc for you to look at

Wayne

Permalink Reply by Heather McIntosh on August 16, 2009 at 4:41am

Thankyou Wayne for that information....it was somewhat useful. Enjoyed the browsing and picked up a couple of items.

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