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Permalink Reply by Peter Simpfendorfer on November 3, 2009 at 6:04pm

Hi Christine,
I have looked online at NSW BDM's and cannot find a reference to Ada M J Ruffles or Ada M J Sheldrake in either deaths or marriages. I have looked for "Ada"and "Ada M" also, but no luck.

I have also looked at Queensland, Victoria and Western Australia with nothing in the deaths. Western Australia has a listing for a Ada M E Sheldrake marrying James Sinclair at Boulder in 1908.

If you want to do your own search on NSW BDM's go to www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyhistory/search.htm . Searches are available for births up to 100 years ago, deaths up to 30 years ago and marriages up to 50 years ago. You can also go to http://www.coraweb.com.au/bdmindex.htm which has links to BDM sites in each state of Australia (except for South Australa).

In reference to the shipping detail for Mrs A Ruffles on the "Westralia", she was listed as being British and travelling alone in steerage.

The listing for A M Sheldrake was for an American sailor born in abt 1864 and having departed from New York and arriving at Southampton on 30 Aug 1894. This can't have been the person you are looking for.

In the Australian electoral rolls I have found a Ada Mary Ruffels (note different spelling) living at 39 Spensley St, Clifton Hill Victoria in 1919.

Hope you get that brick wall knocked down soon

Cheers
Peter

Permalink Reply by Christine O'Grady on November 4, 2009 at 6:27am

Thank you Peter! What a lot of looking up you did. I'm interested in the reference to Ada M E Sheldrake marrying James Sinclair, partly because of the name, but also because I did actually find a reference in the Perth electoral records to an Ada M Sheldrake. I wonder if it could possibly be the one I'm looking for.
I'll also follow up the Ada Mary Ruffels, the name was often spelt this way. Some branches of the family are Ruffels, others Ruffles and the two often seemed interchangeable! However most of the Australian ones are Ruffels so I suspect she is one of those.
Ada was born in the UK so the Westralia record matches.
Every little bit helps!
Thanks once again.
Christine

Permalink Reply by Christine O'Grady on December 19, 2009 at 6:51am

Update! Thank you so much Peter, I am following up your information as I believe you have found our Ada! Will soon have the marriage certificate to James Sinclair and if it is as expected, it will show that Ada and her husband Alfred both married bigamously. I have since found a death for Ada Sinclair showing she died in 1921. Not in 1906 as her husband conveniently stated on his second marriage certificate LOL!
It will be interesting to find out if Ada and James had any children in Perth. I haven't worried about looking yet as she is a very distant relative by marriage and most of this research has been undertaken to help a closer relative trying to solve the family mystery! Thanks again and have a great Christmas

Permalink Reply by Ron D Munro on November 4, 2009 at 11:48pm

Below is where lightbody's are burried in SW of Victoria. Australia.

Cape Bridgewater Cemetery


LIGHTBODY, Anne C.
Abt. 1863
30 Jun 1945



LIGHTBODY, John Charles
Abt. 1923
19 Jun 1982



LIGHTBODY, Kathleen Isobel
Abt. 1898
2 Mar 1983

Wife of Oswald (104); mthr of Jack, Mary & Alan

LIGHTBODY, Margaret Ellen
Abt. 1903
20 Apr 1977



LIGHTBODY, Mary
Abt. 1869
1 Sep 1902

Wife of T.W. LIGHTBODY. Nurse?

LIGHTBODY, Neil Victor Hugh
17 Dec 1888
6 Aug 1981

Hus of Verna (102); fthr of Dorothea, Esther & Erica

LIGHTBODY, Olive Esther “Ettie”
Abt. 1903
21 Jan 1988

Wife of William (107); mthr of Eunice & Pam

LIGHTBODY, Oswald Hector
23 Jun 1887
20 Feb 1971

Hus of Kathleen ((105); fthr of Jack, Mary & Alan

LIGHTBODY, Verna Dorothea
3 Sep 1893
26 May 1993

Wife of Neil (101); mthr of Dorothea, Esther & Erica

LIGHTBODY, William Campbell “Jock”
Abt. 1901
24 Mar 1974

Hus of Olive (108); fthr of Eunice & Pam

LIGHTBODY, William J.
Abt. 1854
25 Apr 1945

Drik Drik Cemetery


LIGHTBODY, Bennie
Abt. 1888
3 Apr 1892

Son of Thomas (114) & Ellen (115).

LIGHTBODY, David Livingstone
Abt. 1881
11 Oct 1908

Dghtr of Thomas (114) & Ellen (115).

LIGHTBODY, Eliza Jane
Abt. 1873
6 Nov 1923

Dghtr of Thomas (114) & Ellen (115).

LIGHTBODY, Ellen
Abt. 1863
28 Dec 1939



LIGHTBODY, Ellen
Abt. 1850
29 Feb 1928

Wife of Thomas (114); mthr of Eliza (116), David (117) & Bennie (118)

LIGHTBODY, Francis May
Abt. 1884
20 Apr 1970



LIGHTBODY, Howard William
Abt. 1889
28 Aug 1968



LIGHTBODY, James
Abt. 1855
28 Feb 1934

Hus of Rachael (30)

LIGHTBODY, James

10 Mar 1961



LIGHTBODY, John T.



South African War 1900 - 1902

LIGHTBODY, Norman Oswald
Abt. 1890
23 Mar 1987



LIGHTBODY, Rachael Bruce
Abt. 1846
29 Oct 1941

Wife of James (29)

LIGHTBODY, Ray
Abt. 1882
24 Jul 1906



LIGHTBODY, Robert Arthur
Abt. 1856
8 Apr 1949



LIGHTBODY, Robert B.



First World War 1914 - 1918

LIGHTBODY, Stanley
Abt. 1887
4 Oct 1917

Killed in action, France.

LIGHTBODY, Thomas
Abt. 1843
30 Apr 1925

Hus of Ellen (115); fthr of Eliza (116), David (117) & Bennie (118)

Portland Cemetery


LIGHTBODY, Ellen
1870
1942

Dtr of William (72) & Rebecca (73)

LIGHTBODY, Myrtle May Victoria
Abt. 1902
1 Oct 1988

Wife of Wilfred (2937)

LIGHTBODY, Rebecca
1828
1929

Wife of William (72); mthr of Ellen (74); nee KITTSON

LIGHTBODY, Wilfred Adrian
Abt. 1892
2 Nov 1955

Hus of Myrtle (2938)

LIGHTBODY, William
1818
1879

Hus of Rebecca (73); fthr of Ellen (74). Reverend

Permalink Reply by Gail Parish on November 6, 2009 at 5:22am

This will help greatly, many thanks

Permalink Reply by M. Denise Golding on November 6, 2009 at 5:13am

Hi, I have just discovered this page, and having gone through all the comments have not found anything I felt I could help anyone with. I do have a brick wall of my own, though, which I would appreciate help/advice on.
Thomas Parker m Charlotte Charlier somewhere round 1830 (presumably in England, though we haven't found it) and had five children prior to coming to South Australia where they had another two in 1839 and 1842. The last English child was born in 1836 and one of the English children died in Australia in Feb1839. They applied for emigration in Aug 1837, and arrived in Adelaide on the Royal Admmiral in Jan 1838. Their last know address in England was Croydon, and some of their children were born round that area.
It would seem that that is the logical place to search for my Thomas. (Unfortunate that both Thomas and Parker are extremely common English names, particularly when placed together!). Charlotte, as far as we know was Belgium, but we haven't been able to trace her either. Now there is a suggestion that the Parker might have originated in France!
If anyone has any ideas on where I can look I would appreciate it greatly. Denise

Permalink Reply by Co Ordinator on November 6, 2009 at 6:38pm

I have picked up something via the WVR Aus/Nz
Thomas Phillip Parker - Ward's Belt - Willaston it looks like this person was a farmer as this came under a brand registration but cannot make head or tail of it but have blown it up to find this as it must be a brand :
P R8 certificate number 3903 T near shoulder this is from a digitised scan and when you copy n paste this type of scan it put all types of figures and numbers in until you blow it up then it is possible to make an assumption on what it really is and record it as that.
that was from a horse and cattle brand register (Brands Directory South Australia 1901.)
There is also a Thomas Parker listed here:South Australia Post Office Directory 1903 (Wise) for the Angas Valley and Angaston

he is listed here:
http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html
And the same site but all listings:
http://www.familyhistorysa.info/passengers-marriages-burials.html

and here:
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1838RoyalAdmiral.htm
interesting to note is that it is listed as 5 children but has john matthew thomas listed as one?

hope this is of help to you

Wayne

Permalink Reply by Co Ordinator on November 6, 2009 at 6:43pm

sorry Denise i forgot to put your name to the query

wayne

Permalink Reply by M. Denise Golding on November 7, 2009 at 7:13am

Wayne,

Many thanks. I've just spent about 6 hours sorting through some of the Parker family on the new.familysearch site, and someone has put our Thomas Parker in as Thomas Philip. (Thomas did have a son Thomas Philip (1839-1920), but this one was born about 1806, roughly when we think 'our' Thomas was born, so your info. seems very relevant). I'll get onto the links as soon as I can and as soon as my back can stand some more sitting at the computer.

The entry in new.familysearch (most of it entered by me) is as follows:


Thomas Phillip Parker (1803-1842) Husband
Charlotte Charlier (1801-1870) Wife - Marriage: about 1831

Children:
Charlotte Catherine Parker (1830-1905)
John Thomas Parker (1830-1879)
Henry Thomas Parker (1832-1903)
Thomas Parker (1834-1839)
Parker (1836-)
The above born in England, the last two in South Australia
Thomas Philip Parker (1839-1920)
Philip Thomas Parker (1842-1843)

John Thomas has also been entered as John Matthew Thomas, but we had never come across this before - now you have found it. I've got a bit of work to do here.

Many thanks once again.

Denise

Permalink Reply by Co Ordinator on November 7, 2009 at 9:38am

Hi Denise
Got it right this time
I am glad that I was able to help

You have mentioned that the new LDS site
is it up and running for all to use or is it still in beta form

I ask as I use this site all the time along with indexing when I get the chance.

Wayne

Permalink Reply by Albertus Lang on November 6, 2009 at 9:28pm

Hello Carmel ,thanks for that ,is there any details on her Marriage and how many children ,also if Marjorie still alive?where died and when ,many thanks for the details ,Albertus.

Permalink Reply by Ross James Stacey on November 11, 2009 at 2:38pm

I am looking for the parents of Albert Ongley born Sept.1863 in Breach Kent, UK and his spouse Mary Flora Stickins born in Gillingham, Kent about 1863
Thank you,
Ross

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