New Source Citation Template Feature

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Permalink Reply by Dave Bates on July 16, 2009 at 9:38am

Frankly I have been so busy correcting all the items that didn't convert properly from FTM 2006 and FTM 2008 on 20,000 records of my 77,000 people, that I hadn't even noticed the Source Template feature! I am glad you mentioned it! Seems like it should have been labeled a bit more, so the specific use of each field that pops up is more clear...

Permalink Reply by Jean Perera on July 16, 2009 at 9:42am

I have tried a few times to use the templates. I found them difficult to use, perhaps because I don't have the book and so have no references to look at. I spent more time trying to drill down through the template choices and figure out which I should use. At this time, I am not using them. I am just adding sources in my own way, trying to be as complete as I can.

Permalink Reply by Michael Gallagher on July 16, 2009 at 9:49am

Anybody know how to craete GEDCOMs without stripping out any information? Will FTM be able to read other family tree software?

Permalink Reply by Russ Worthington on July 16, 2009 at 11:00am

Michael,

What information do you want "not stripped"? The only thing that is NOT included in a GEDCOM file, are Images, But, that is the nature of any GEDCOM file. Other Genealogy programs will read a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker. That is the purpose of a GEDCOM file.

Hope that helps,

Russ

Permalink Reply by Russ Worthington on July 16, 2009 at 11:05am

Jean,

Thank you for your comments.

If you can give me an example, I will put a Blog entry to show you how.

The key starting point, for me, is to Identify WHAT I am looking at and Where did I get it from. Once you have made that, the rest should go easiter.

But, and example will help me walk through that process.

Thank you,

Russ

Permalink Reply by Jean Perera on July 16, 2009 at 2:21pm

Looking at the templates again, maybe it isn't as difficult as I thought. But here is an example: This was a microfilm of Muscatine Co. Iowa Marriage Index and Records from the Family History Library. The information on the film where I found the data for my ancestor was Project # 07000 roll 23 Book 2 p 228. In the citation, I included the information about the marriage as was stated in the index. I also noted that the original material was housed with Muscatine County Iowa Clerk of the District Court.

Another example would be information found on a website, i.e. Muscatine Co. site at IAGenWeb. It is a list of people buried in a cemetery and what was on the tombstone in a table format. I realize that is a secondary source and needs to have something in addition to verify it, but it is a source.

Or a copy of a marriage certificate that I have in my posession. What is the repository? Me?

Maybe that will give you some fodder to work with.

Thanks. I enjoy your other blog and find the screen shots, etc. very helpful. You solved a problem for me once by looking at the screen shots.

Jean

Permalink Reply by Russ Worthington on July 16, 2009 at 2:39pm

Jean,

Thank you for the examples. I'll put something on the Blog and let you know.

One note, from Evidence Explained, is that the Microfilm from the Family History Library is NOT considered as a Published document.

Two questions: Do you have a Roll Number and was the file in SLC or your Local FHC?

Thank you,

Russ

Permalink Reply by Jean Perera on July 16, 2009 at 4:56pm

The role number is 1854080. I ordered it from SLC.

If the film is not considered a published document, I assume the published docs are the records that are housed in Iowa?

Thanks. Looking forward to your explanation in your blog.

Jean

Permalink Reply by Russ Worthington on July 16, 2009 at 8:00pm

Jean,

The Note about Microfilm from a FHC is from Evidence Explained,Page 53, Paragraph 2.24."... Most of the library's film, fiche, and digital images are not publications but preservation copies ..."

Page 54, Paragraph 2.25 FHL Basic Rule:
Because FHL files are not considered to be publication and are only circulated within its library system rather than sold or given to the public, they are not cites as a publication. ....

Hope that clears up your question. It comes from Evidence Explained.

Russ

Permalink Reply by Jean Perera on July 22, 2009 at 7:27am

Sorry for the delayed thanks for the explanation. I just looked at this discussion again this morning. It does answer my question. Thank you.

I think I need to break down and get one of her books. Might be a good Christmas gift suggestion.

Permalink Reply by Russ Worthington on July 23, 2009 at 6:34am

Jean,

I am working on a series of Blogs addressing the use of the Templates.

Yes, Evidence Explained is a good thing to have close at hand.

Also, there are at least tow QuckSheets that may be of use to you, while waiting for Christmas.

Quick Sheet
Citing Online Historical Resources - ISBN 978-0-8063-1776-2

Citing Ancestry.com Databases & Images - ISBN 978-0-8063-1764-6

both from Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD

Hope this helps,

Good Luck,

Russ

Permalink Reply by Russ Worthington on July 22, 2009 at 7:08pm

Jean,

I just posted a Blog on how to use the new Template for your example. Hope you take a minute to check it out.

Thank you,

Russ

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