Quinn/Byrne/Kavanagh (or Cavanagh) in County Carlow

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Permalink Reply by Catherine Murphy Gingras on July 31, 2009 at 9:48pm

Byrne (var. Byron) I'm looking for the Irish origins of my paternal grandparents: Henry Murphy and Sarah Byrne Murphy. My father used to say they were from County Cork, but I have yet to find any facts. Sarah Byrne Murphy (b.1866 - d.1929) was born to Thomas and Mary Byrne; they also had a son James Byrne (b.1876) also born in Ireland. I'm assuming there were more children. Doing the math standby of 20-yr. generations, I'm thinking Thomas and Mary were born around 1846. There's a family story that at the time Henry and Sarah were emigrating (1881-1882?), there was a rule (law?) that you had to be married, and so they were and in their early teens!

Permalink Reply by Annie Mason on December 14, 2009 at 5:15pm

Hi Diana:

Terance Quinn (Ireland) is my 3 gr grandfather.
His son Thomas b abt 1808 Ire. m Honora (Hanora?)Leahy
Son Daniel b abt 1840 d 1955 m
MARIE ELIZABETH3 ROGERS (BRIDGIT2 O'REILLY, THOMAS1 REILLY) was born 31 May 1847 in St. Polycarpe, Soulanges County, Canada East. She married DANIEL QUINN 12 Jan 1875 in St. Zotique, Soulanges County, Quebec. He died 15 Jun 1955.

Marie E Rogers Quinn d 16 Jan 1927 79 years 7 months 13 days

DEATH: b) Daniel Quinn
Quinn, Daniel Quinn, Daniel (child of) & of Mary Rogers in St.
Margarets cemetery,
Buriel Glen Nevis, who died 15th inst. aged 77
Plot #. 69
19-Nov-1959

DEATH: source: personal email from Sir John Johnson House 30 Aug 2006
Marion McDonell - Summer Curator

Their daughter is my (maternal) Grandmother. see marriage record below:
MARRIAGE: On September 5, 1911 at St. Margaret of Scotland (Glen Nevis) Donald John Macdonell (age 32, born Lot 16, 6th Concession, Lancaster Twp., Glengarry Co.) the son of Alexander C. Macdonell and Ellen Macdonald married Mary Elizabeth Clara Quinn (age 32, born Curry Hill, Ontario) the daughter of Daniel Quinn and Mary Elizabeth Roger. Gordon MacDonald of Alexandria and Regina Quinn of Curry Hill were present at the ceremony. D. R. Macdonald was the recording priest. There is a note in the margin as follows: Donald John baptized on July 13, 1879, born on the 11th inst. (July 11, 1879) on Lot 16, 6th Lancaster, Glengarry Co., Ontario.

source: Re: MCDONNEL MCRAE QUINN GLENGARRY COUNTY ONTARIO
James Allan M... Posted: 20 Jun 2006 12:38PM GMT (roots board)

Curry Hill --- Glengarry County, Lancaster township lot 9 conc 2. Now the area from the Quebec border lot 1 conc 1 and lot 1 conc 2 to lot 11 in the 1st & 2nd concessions, is known as the Curry Hill area.

There are some Quinn (with connections Higgins and other marriages noted on tombstones
at http://www.findagrave.com (look for Canada Que St Anicet) Quite a few of these were
added recently by Monte LeBlanc. The cemetery has 434 names listed if you search
by cemetery name and then surname.
These are here:
Michael Quinn b 1812 Carlow Cty d 1883 is listed with tombstone pic. (Ellen /CUNNINGHAM- KAVANAUGH/)1824-1884

John J Higgins and Spouse:
Margaret Crean

Do you have wive's name of John son of Terance Quinn & Mary Byrne? I only have
a Mrs and I am guessing he may have married a Kavanaugh?








I don't have extensive detail on this family other than the various Canadian
census records. If you want these let me know?

Permalink Reply by Diana Goulet on December 19, 2009 at 9:47pm

Hello Annie,
I was so surprised and happy to hear from you about our common ancestors. Terence Quinn and Mary Byrne were also my ggg grandparents. I am currently on holiday in New Zealand (hence the delayed reply to your posting…) and do not have access to all of my information, but wanted to respond with what I know at this time. I am not a trained researcher, so please excuse any silly questions or comments here…
1. I know that Peter Quinn was born to Terence and Mary 1810 in Borris, County Carlow and his brother Michael was born 1813. They were both baptized there in the Catholic Church. I don’t believe that there are any other church records for the family. I have researched the records both on line and in Borris and could find nothing else—no other children and no records of either the marriage or deaths of Terence and Mary.

Do you have any documentation on the births of either John or Thomas (b 1808)? Is it possible that one or both of them were the sons of another (possibly Paul) Quinn. I believe several of us assumed that all the Quinns that emigrated to St. Anicet were brothers, but I now think it is more likely that some were cousins.

2. Do you have any information on when Thomas emigrated to Canada? I believe it is very probable that Peter emigrated in 1825 (not quite 15 years old..), but assisted by his god-father who is also buried in St. Anicet. It would appear that the two families were close and that emigration from both families occurred together over some time.

3. I am confused about your Sr. Daniel Quinn. It seems as though he was born 1840 and died 1955. That would have made him 115 years old at the time of his death??? Am I correct in assuming that it was his son who died 19-Nov-1959??

4. When you have numbers inserted into names (e.g. MARIE ELIZABETH3 ROGERS) does that mean that Marie was the third daughter or the third child or ???

5. I live in Ireland some of the time and have been fortunate to find the family farm records and actually to visit the land. If you want any information on that, let me know. I can send you a write up and also some photos.

6. Thanks for your update on the cemetery records for St. Anicet—I had not seen that new site and will add information on some of the entries.

7. I am not sure how you made the John Higgins/Margaret Crean connection, but they were the parents of Bridget Higgins, who married Terence Peter Quinn. Their daughter Mae (Mary) was my maternal grandmother. I suspect that John Higgins emigrated from Youghal, County Cork.

Enough for now. If you want to contact me off-list, feel free to do so at dianagoulet@sbcglobal.net