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Comment by Helen Pust on November 27, 2010 at 10:09am

Thanks Nivard for responding. I haven't been tracking the family for awhile as I volunteer at the Legion and museum here after some idiot set fire to the archives. But yes my grandfather is the one listed at Aldershot in 1901. He lied about his age to enlist at Guildford. Harry was born at sea on a ship coming from Scotland to England and I am having trouble finding his birth certificate. I have his military papers from the UK and his Canadian Military papers for WWI. on each the date of birth is the same and he states Redhill, Surrey as his home. On the UK it states Isle of Wight as birthplace. It is possible that his name could be LOWDER as it has changed twice that I know of. He was LOUDER when in UK military but somehow it changed to LOUDEN (by his signature I can see how that happened) and also one time I believe it was LONDON. When he married my grandmother his name is listed as Charles Henry Louden but his name when he enlisted in Can. military was Harry Daniel Louden. He is a most interesting person and also mysterious too I think. But I do have others that are proving fascinating to find info on. If you can suggest how I get into Isle of Wight birth records or are they now in the UK archives? Thanks again Helen

Comment by Janet Anne Paton on June 16, 2010 at 1:15pm

Hello Jo Saunders

You have Hannah SAUNDERS b Dinton, Bucks 1845 on your tree. I'm pretty certain she married my Ancestor Henry William CHAPMAN in 1884.
Please contact me if you'd like to share info.

Jan Paton ( nee Chapman )

Comment by Nivard Ovington on June 16, 2010 at 10:16am

Hi Helen
Are you sure the Charles Henry LOUDER you mention in 1901 is yours?
He is enumerated as 20 years old in 1901, he appears aged 12 with father James and mother Eliza as LOWDER in 1891 and 2 in 1881
Birth reg
Name: Charles Henry Lowder
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Reigate
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 149

This would also fit with someone who enlisted in 1900 as an 1885 born would be to young

How do you arrive at the 1885 born LOUDER in Redhill ?

Looking at the GRO births, there are no Charles, Henry or Harry LOUDER or LOUDEN born in 1885

Nearest I can find is

Name: Harry Loudon
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: St Saviour Southwark
County: London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 141

NJO in Cornwall (UK)

Comment by Helen Pust on June 16, 2010 at 8:58am

This is great as I now have some idea where to look for info. My gfather was Charles Henry Louder. b. 8 Mar 1885 . His family lived in Redhill, Surrey in 1900 at 19 Grove Rd. When he joined the 2nd Dragroon Guards in 1900 he signed in Guildford, Surrey. I can find him on the 1901 Census at Aldershot Vet Acadmey but nothing else other that military papers until he married gmother in 1908 in Belleville On. His father's name was James Louder & his sister was Mrs. Gobill or Gohill living at 23 Lambert Cottage, St. John's Kings Ave. Redhill Surrey. Unfortuately his surname was changed to Louden at some time and he was always called Harry not Henry. If anyone has an idea how to look up the addresses I might be able to get info that way. help is greatly appreciated as this has been a long look

Comment by Jo Saunders on June 7, 2010 at 7:03am

NJO in Cornwall,
Thank you so much, sounds like him!!!
Jo

Comment by Nivard Ovington on June 7, 2010 at 3:34am

Hi Jo
The nearest death registration I can find is :-

Name: Edwin Saunders
Death Registration Month/Year: 1919
Age at death (estimated): 76
Registration district: Kingston
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 703

Searching the 1911 index for an Edwin SAUNDERS b1842 Dinton finds :-

SAUNDERS EDWIN M 1842 69 Kingston Surrey

NJO in Cornwall (UK)

Comment by Jo Saunders on June 6, 2010 at 10:36pm

I think I am in the right place but not sure, My G-g-grandfather Edwin SAUNDERS, b 1842, moved to Wimbledon Surrey sometime between the 1861census and 1871, He left Dinton Buckinghamshire, where he was born, He was a brick layer and I have no idea why he left his little village except for the possibility of better work. He married Ann Mary Johnson 18 May 1871, they had several children and continued to live in Wimbledon Surrey, up until 1901 that I know of, I have the census' for 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901. I would like to know when they died and where they might be buried.
Here is my website I have some of the information about this family there..
http://joni.tribalpages.com/
Any help or advice would be appriciated and any if you think you might be related to me please contact me.
Sincerely
Jo Saunders

Comment by Joyce B Sampson on March 6, 2010 at 11:15am

I researched the Loveland name for someone else. I did not get back as early as your references, his came from Farnham, c1730. I found the Loveland website interesting.
Best wishes with your research.
Joyce

Comment by Liz Loveland on March 6, 2010 at 9:43am

Hi Joyce,
According to what I've researched so far, the Lovelands seem to have originated, as far as I've yet found, near Worplesdon. So far in my own research I've found information that matches the info on this page of the Loveland website:
"Loveland - Pre-1600 References, Early Geographical Distribution & Origins"
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~djmurphy/loveland/earlyref.htm

Not being in England, I am at a bit of a disadvantage in doing research on early documents, but I've been doing what I can from the States. I hope to take a research trip to England within the next few years.

How are you related to the Lovelands? Are you in England, the States or elsewhere? Please feel free to contact me off the board if you'd prefer.

Comment by Joyce B Sampson on March 6, 2010 at 4:39am

I have traced the name of "Loveland" from Farnham and Woking. What date do you have for your "Loveland" in Worplesdon?

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