Sweden and Swedish Ancestry

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Comment by Lynn Anderson on August 21, 2009 at 10:33am

Richard, can you help educate us?
Måns Stjernquist is listed with title åbo.
What is an åbo?

What does susc. mean (Susc. hustru Johanna ...)?

Comment by Lynn Anderson on August 21, 2009 at 10:22am

Great Richard,
Where did you access the record that you attached on August 18? Can anyone access it?

Comment by robert bjorkman on August 18, 2009 at 8:53pm

I don't want to impose on your hospitality, but when you don't have anything else to do (Ha!), could you check on my other great, great grandather, Sven John Hakensson, b. 23 Jul 1829, Skatelof, Sweden. He married Sissa Jonsdotter, b. 15 Jan 1835. Maybe sometime when insomnia overtakes you again, although I hope it does not. The last couple of days have been very informative for me and I appreciate your helping me and the others here.
thanks,
Bob

Comment by Richard Dahlqvist on August 18, 2009 at 7:53pm

Hi Gail!

I did a quick search using Genline, ADOnline and SVAR.
I also used a free online database.

By doing so I have been able to trace your grandmothers father, paternal grandfather and paternal Great grandfather.

This brings this line of your family tree back to late 18th century.

Comment by Gail Parish on August 18, 2009 at 7:49pm

Thank you Richard thats great.

Comment by Richard Dahlqvist on August 18, 2009 at 4:30pm

Hi!

Gail, Lynn gave you good information about how the Swedish Parish Records worked.
But as I wrote in a post about 6 hours ago, the records for your grandmother Annas birth are NOT available in either Genline, ADOnline, nor in the online resource of SVAR (a department of the Swedish National Archives).

It seems however that it is microfilmed and are stored at the regional department of the National Archives in Lund.

I make that conclusion because I found a online record of her birth. And that record is made using the microfilmed original parish records kept in Lund.

I have made a screendump and I will try and attach that screendump to this post.

Comment by Gail Parish on August 18, 2009 at 4:00pm

Thank you very much for all this info, I do not belong to Genline so if any one could do the search that would be wonderful.

Comment by Lynn Anderson on August 18, 2009 at 1:32pm

Hi Gail and others
Swedish birth records were kept by the Swedish Church in church books. Specifically, births in a birth-christening book (birth födde) kept by the priest of the local parish. The parish is the local geographic unit and all births were recorded by the church (the church was directed to do this in 1686). The priest just recorded the information on the next line in the preprinted book. You will find name, birth date, christening date (usually just a few days later), names of father and mother and godparents and witnesses. The book is unique to the parish so you know the place. When the book was full, the priest ordered a new book and began to make entries in it.

What most of us do for a written record is print out or copy yourself the page with your person on it. This is what you can do on Genline or Arkiv. They have images of the original birth book. In earlier days, we often read microfilms at Mormon family history centers (you had to rent the film) and then pay a copy cost to make a hard cocpy of the microfilm image.

If you do not subscribe to Genline etc, find someone here that will copy the page you want.

Comment by Richard Dahlqvist on August 18, 2009 at 10:30am

Hi Gail!

I have found a record of Annas birth that is actually online. And the best part of it, it's totally free!

If you do a search for the births and use the parents as keywords, you will see that they actually had 10 children, NOT only the 7 that came with them to Australia.

The other three children died young.

Comment by Richard Dahlqvist on August 18, 2009 at 10:03am

Hi Gail!

In Sweden we don't have the same system as they do in the UK for example.
There are no cost you have to pay in order get the information about your mothers birth. At least no cost other than the cost for the paper it's printed on.

But, if you decide to contact the National Archives in order to get a copy it will cost you some for their time in getting a copy.

I am subscibing to three different services that are making the parish records available for research online. I have checked all three of these and found that neither of them have the birth or baptismal records from Finja in 1880.

I don't know why they don't have those records. They might have been destroyed by fire, water or just got lost. They might not even have been filmed or photograhed.

I am planning a trip to the National Archives regional office tomorrow and I can check and see if they have the Finja records of 1880.

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