Native American mtDNA Haplogroups A2, B2, C1, D1, and X

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This group is for anyone who is interested in sharing information with others about Native American mtDNA haplogroups.

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Ugo A. Perego

Blaine, great group. I almost started it myself! :) Perhaps to avoid any confusion it should have been named with the actual haplogroup designation for the Native American lineages (A2, B2, C1, and D1). As a note to everyone that might join this group, there are currently 12 established and confirmed Native American mtDNA lineages: 7 pan-American (A2, B2, C1b, C1c, C1d, D1, and D4h3a) and 5 rarer and geographically limited (C4c, D2, D3, X2a and X2g). I doubt anyone testing commercially for their own mtDNA will belong to any of the rare ones (with the exception of X2a), but you never know.

Jul 14, 2009
Ruth

Hi Blaine,
Are you still accepting members in your group?

Aug 6, 2009
Blaine Bettinger

Absolutely Ruth! You are the group's third member. Welcome!

Aug 6, 2009
Marilyn K. Sobiech

I was very excited when I stumbled upon this group. I did my first DNA test with the National Geographic Genome Project. I'm Haplogroup C. I did the HVR2 testing with FTDNA. From that I think I'm C1 and maybe C1b. I'm adopted and when I opened my records I found out my grandmother is listed on the 1908 Durrant Role for Sault St. Marie, MI Chippewa and Pottawatomie.

Jan 31, 2010
Gilberto Ceballos

Just had myself tested and found out what my grandparents told me that we have native and african blood Halo Group N from west africa with subgroup X2 from west indies my grandfather says his grandfather mom was Taino and Mulatto which is half breed african and native that one of the ancestors was brought on a slave ship while the other was Taino native and the father was from the Canarias. All this before DNA testing.

Apr 13, 2010
John E Montanez

My mother is in mtDNA haplogroup C1b2a , and my fathers maternal mtDNA haplogroup is C1b.

May 12, 2010
Ayesart

Here's a URL link to an article that discusses the Indigenous haplo groups. They are still insistent upon the Bering Strait theory though.

http://genome.cshlp.org/content/20/9/1174.full

Sep 21, 2010
Ruth

So it seems from what I have read and understand that the majority of C1b are from South America according to the pie 15.7 from the research paper:
The initial peopling of the Americas: A growing number of founding mitochondrial genomes from Beringia.

That would explain me having the Diego Blood Group: Di(a+b+), most likely pass down to me from my father whose maternal line is C1b2a.
It is found in 36% of South American Indians.

Sep 23, 2010
Marilyn K. Sobiech

I've always found it interesting that I tested as C1b and my birth mother's family is Sault Ste Marie Chippewa from Sault Ste Marie, Michigan as well as Garden River, ON, Canada directly northeast. Yet all the FT match notices that I receive are matches from Puerto Rico, Central, and South America. Of course I know through FT or National Geographic one has to pay to be tested and in today's economy that may limit many people from being tested and joining in the search.

Sep 24, 2010
Ruth

Hi Marilyn,
Yes, there were many from PR that were tested and have the same results. C1b2a is a big one for those that tested their full sequence and also haplogroup C from FTDNA who tested their HVR1 & HVR2. My father and husband have 45 matches for their HVR1 & HVR2 and there are a total of 15 full sequence matches from FTDNA. That's not including those tested from another company.

Sep 24, 2010
Ruth

Ruth Said "That would explain me having the Diego Blood Group: Di(a+b+), most likely pass down to me from my father whose maternal line is C1b2a.
It is found in 36% of South American Indians. "
The Diego blood group is not passed down from the ydna or mtdna but from the gene pool. I figured that since my paternal grandmother was of haplogroup C1b2a which there seems to be many in South America, that the Diego blood group was pass down to me from my father whose mother was from that particular mtDNA halplogroup and it was first discovered in South America and many of the natives there have it.

Sep 24, 2010
Ruth

The history of the Diego blood group
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S1516-84842002000100004&scr...

Sep 26, 2010
Rene Rylander

Hello! I learned from my 23andMe DNA test that I am part of the B4'5 haplogroup, with subset of B2. That information indicates that my maternal ancestors crossed the Bering land bridge from Asia into North America. I was glad to hear that because if I follow my maternal line back, I come to one ancestor that I was sure was wrong, and I think it was a coverup by the family. William Johnston was an Orkney Scott working for the Hudson Bay Co near Fort Hall, along the Snake River, which was Bannock/Shoshoni territory. He married Ann Potter (of English descent) in 1849 at Ft. Hall when her family was on their way to Oregon in a prairie schooner. They claimed 12 children, the first was my 2nd great grandmother, Barbara Johnston. On some records they said she was born in 1849, but that would have made her 11 when she married. Later census records show she was born in 1846, which would predate the marriage of William & Ann. I believe that Barbara was the result of a relationship with a woman of the Bannock tribe. I have a photo of her... she is round-faced with dark hair and medium complexion. My mother always said that she had an ancestor who was an 'Indian Princess', a common tale I'm told. She attributes our lack of body hair to our 'Indian blood'. I don't expect to ever learn who the biological mother of Barbara was, but at least I know that it wasn't Ann Potter.

Mar 20, 2011
Marilyn K. Sobiech

I noticed in one of the articles it made reference to a more limited number of Native Americans that have been tested for the full sequence. Maybe one factor is the cost which may be very limiting for many Native people. Is there a way to place one's name on a list for researchers to benefit the researcher as well as the client wishing to have a full sequence test?

May 20, 2011
John E Montanez

I just got the results for my FTDNA full mtDNA test. It confirmed my haplogroup as C1b2a, but I have no matches for the full test though I have at least 40 matches at HVR2, and hundreds at HVR1.

Aug 4, 2011
Yvette Porter Moore

I discovered today from my 23andMe DNA test that I am part of the B4'5 haplogroup, with subset of B2. I was adopted and found my birth mother's family so I was aware of my Native American Ancestry, but this actually confirms what my birth-mother stated. I am going to get my Brother on my dad's side tested also. He is African American and French-Creole. I was raised in an African American household and that is how I identify.

Oct 7, 2011
Maria Camacho

Hi

I'm haplogroup B2 and my family comes from Colombia

Oct 10, 2011
Alva H. Griffith

Hi !

I just learned this week that I am haplogroup A2. I am hoping that being in this group will help me to better understand my results, and will give me some folks to share my thoughts/ideas etc with as I learn.

I have known for some time that I have Lumbee heritage on my Dad's maternal line (paper trail). I also believe that there may be additional NA heritage in my Mom's maternal line and possibly in my Dad's paternal line. Can't prove it. Lots of FPOC and Mu designations, and some oral history. (This could turn out to be simply FPOC and Mu, which is fine too. ^>^ ) I just want to know the truth.

We are, generally, North Carolina people. The majority of my (tested) heritage is European with about 1/3 African American. I identify as African American.

Feb 25, 2012
Alva H. Griffith

Does this group still meet? Or perhaps meet elsewhere?

Mar 4, 2012
Marilyn K. Sobiech

We're kind of a small group of only 29 members. Did you have a specific question? If you want more general info on A2 haplogroup you could Google the A2 group. Who did your testing? They should also have additional information about your test results. Good luck; I'm sorry that I can't help much as I really don't know much about the A2 group. I'm C1b and I know I'm Ojibwa.

Mar 6, 2012
Alva H. Griffith

Thanks so much for your response, Marilyn. I had my testing done by 23andme; I saw that they are involved in some of the shows of Who Do You Think You Are, and they were starting a new medical group, so the price was right ^>^ . I don't have a great many questions now, as I found some of the answers I needed. Think I was just a bit overwhelmed, as I didn't realize there was so much involved. Thanks again.

Mar 6, 2012
Marilyn K. Sobiech

I'm aware of that testing group but not too familiar with them. I first tested with the National Geographic genome project. Then they seemed to merge with or turn their data over to Family Tree. I then did a second set of testing with Family Tree and now have a "family finder" test in the works, and waiting for results. We'll see what happens or what I find out. I'm adopted but knew I was Native American before I first tested but did it more to just have the results in black and white to prove what I already knew. Again Good luck with your further research. It is interesting.

Mar 6, 2012
Diane S.

Hello all. I ran across your thread when trying to research our family linage. I just received my results from National Geographic Geno project which states I'm B2b which confuses me. My grandmother was born in Adjuntas, P.R. She was light complected with blond hair and blue eyes as well as her brothers. My mother was also fair complected with very thick black coarse hair. Per family members, we are supposed to originate from the Canary Islands. My test show we migrated from Africa to Asia then across America to South America, then they stated they have no more information at this time. I felt it was pretty vague. Does these results sound accurate? Anyone's help & input would greatly be appreciated. My grandmothers last name was Serrano Y Acevedo.

Apr 15, 2013
Yvette Porter Moore

This is a follow-up on my Haplogroup B2. The locations of my Native American Ancestry is Mexico, New Mexico and Arizona. Oral History states that we are Apache and Yuchi. Still trying to find the connection through documents.

Jun 1, 2013
Cris C

Hi, I have a very similar profile to Diane S. :B2b with a maternal line from Puerto Rico (San Juan - Rio Grande - Cabo Rojo) that is at least 220 years old.

My mother and her family are also fair skinned, light hair and eyes.

I find this result a bit perplexing but totally cool! Contact me if you want to compare notes.

Jul 23, 2013
Alvaro Alejandro Roncancio

Thought I would drop by on this site and add that I am from Colombia (living in the UK) and I just found out that I am haplogroup A2 on my maternal side. It is interesting since both my mum and sister often get confused for being asian or something here in the UK as the area I live in there is not many people of hispanic/native descent. I tested both HVR1 and HVR2. Still getting my head around this whole thing but I am learning good things!

Sep 4, 2013
Gloria A Villamarzo

I am a member of Haplogroup A4.

Are there any members of Haplogroup A4 in this forum?

Sep 5, 2013
Susan Fitzmaurice

My son's results came back from 23 and Me and he is A2. He is adopted and his parents were from East Harlem and of Puerto Rican heritage with very dark skin/hair/eyes, while his is much lighter. I'm finding the confirmation of his Puerto Rican heritage very exciting. I can't wait to learn more.

Dec 4, 2013
Valerie Flores-Chavis

Hi All, I am new here. I did a DNA test to confirm some of my ancestors were Taino Indian. I am Puerto Rican on both sides. C1b2 Here is my breakdown:

68.1% European

54.7% Southern European

5.4% Northern European

0.7% Ashkenazi

7.3% Nonspecific European

12.6% East Asian & Native American

9.8% Native American

0.2% East Asian

2.6% Nonspecific East Asian & Native American

11.1% Sub-Saharan African

10.1% West African

0.3% Central & South African

0.7% Nonspecific Sub-Saharan African

4.1% Middle Eastern & North African

3.5% North African

0.6% Nonspecific Middle Eastern & North

May 27, 2014