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Comment by Dan Yaklin on June 19, 2018 at 12:27pm

I do have Y DNA testing on Fredrick Hamilton Basden, Jr.

Dan

Comment by Dan Yaklin on June 19, 2018 at 12:11pm

Part 2.

It is likely that the two oldest male children of James Sr., had either died or stayed in North Carolina when the family moved to Alabama, since they are not in the household of James and there are no other Basden's listed in the 1830 census in Franklin County, Alabama. They would have been old enough to have been married and be out on their own.

In the 1810 Onslow County, North Carolina census a James Baisden is found on page 101. The ages of household members match with the 1830 census of Franklin County Alabama. It is probable that this is the same James Basden. In the 1810 census there were four males and six females in the household. One male was born between 1800 and 1810, one was born between 1794 and 1800, one was born between 1784 and 1794, and one, which obviously was James, was born between 1760 and 1770. Two females were born between 1800 and 1810, two were born between 1794 and 1800, one was born between 1784 and 1794, and one which probably was James' wife, was born between 1765 and 1784.

James Basedin is listed in 1800 Census of Onslow County, North Carolina. He is in the town of Wilmington. The record is on page 179 of the census. There are two free males under age 10 in the household, and one male age 26-44, which would probably be James. There were three white females under age 10, one female aged 16 through 25 which is probably James wife, and one free female aged 26 through 44. This female is too young to be James' mother, but it could be the mother of James wife. There is one other free person in the household. This would mean James was born between 1756 and 1774. This is consistent with the other census records on James listed above.
I have not located a James Basden in the 1790 or 1820 census. In 1790 it is likely he may have still been living with his parents. In 1820 he may have been living in another household, just missed in the census or not located yet in the census records.

Comment by Dan Yaklin on June 19, 2018 at 12:11pm

Here is what I know about my James Basden.

In two parts due to the 4000 character limit.

The following items from Zoe Hargett Gwyn's book, "Records of Onslow Co., North Carolina" pertain to a James Basden.
Volume 1, pg. 595 #64 - Lewis Jones sold to James Basden land on New River for $700. Dec. 29, 1806.
Book A, pg. 17 - Cordel Basden's will, probated on Dec. 20, 1800 named children Richard Basden, et al, John Basden, minor. Nancy Basden, Elizabeth, Sarah Harris. Brother: Jesse Basden : James Basden, bondsman.
Deed Book 6 (1814-1816) - April 10, 1811, William Mills from James Basden a tract joining Wm. Mills and Jesse Basden -- 200 acres for $700.

James Basden bought 119.83 acres of land from the State of Alabama on February 9, 1830. The land was located in township 4 South 12 West of Huntsville Meridian. He also purchased 79.89 acres from the Northeast 1/4 of Section 24 and the NE 1/4 of the SW 1/4 of Section 24, which was 39.94 acres.

I do not have documented proof at this time that James was the father of the children shown in this document. The evidence indicates that James Basden moved to Franklin County, Alabama sometime before 1830 to purchase government land. He brought his family as evidenced by the 1830 census. He was the only Basden in Franklin County, Alabama at this time, so there is little chance of confusing him with other Basdens. The evidence that George and Willliam are his children is due to the fact that they appear on the census of 1840 after their James died, and the fact that an older woman appears in William's household which is most likely the widow of James. The evidence also is strong that the James in Onlsow County, North Carolina is the same James in Franklin County, Alabama in 1830 becasue of the matching ages of the children in the household.

In the Franklin County, Alabama census of 1830 on page 45, James Basden is shown with nine people in his household, four males and five females. Two males were born between 1810 and 1815. These would have been George and William. One was born between 1800 and 1810. This would have been James M. One was born between 1760 and 1770, which obviously was James Sr. One female was born between 1825 and 1830. This most like was a granddaughter of James Sr. One female was born between 1800 and 1810. James had two daughters born between 1800 and 1810, so it appears that one was still living at home. Two females were born between 1790 and 1800. James had three daughters born between 1790 and 1800, so it appears that two of them were still living at home. One female, probably James' wife, was born between 1770 and 1780.

Comment by Kristine Walker on June 19, 2018 at 11:50am

I'll poke around at some of the earlier lines that diverge from mine to see if I see a link.  Have you done any DNA testing?  I'm on GED Match if you want to see if we have any matching genes...

Comment by Dan Yaklin on June 19, 2018 at 11:36am

No, too early for my James. There were several James Basdens through the generations.

Dan

Comment by Kristine Walker on June 19, 2018 at 11:28am

Is your James possibly the son of Hugh Basden born in Bermuda ~1668?

Comment by Dan Yaklin on June 19, 2018 at 11:22am

My line ties back to James Basden, born about 1768 in North Carolina. I have not been able to figure out who his father was and how he ties in with the other North Carolina Basdens, who came from Virgina and Bermuda before that.

Dan Yakln

Comment by Kristine Walker on June 19, 2018 at 11:00am

Ack, I meant my Dad's Mother was Ruby Gambrell, haven't had enough coffee yet this morning.  Carrah Brank would have been my Grandfather's Mother on my Father's side.

Comment by Kristine Walker on June 19, 2018 at 10:56am

His Father was Carl Thomas Basden and Carrah Brank was his Mother.  Researching the Basden line has been fascinating thus far, but I'm getting stuck trying to definitively determine the genealogy earlier than the Basden's arrival in the Bermudas.  

Comment by Kristine Walker on June 19, 2018 at 10:52am

Robert Lindsay Basden

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