I really think Rev Richard Wheatley is one of the brothers, and for now, maybe you could focus on trying to figure out his roots, with all of the writing he did, I'm hoping there is a lengthy obituary for him somewhere, I'll have to check the other sources I have. In the NYTimes there was only a brief death notice. Maybe somehow we can eliminate him or decide that he is one of your Wheatleys. :)
If you join the other group, I would try to come up with what question you'd like to get answered- if you'd like to try to connect James to Richard or James to an Isaac Jane family.
I would post the information you have on James, sort of a timeline, and list the records, and possibly make a list of questions you are trying to answer.
hi Carl-
I'm one of the administrators of a really good 'brick wall' group here, called "Most Wanted" It really helps to have other folks look at our puzzle pieces sometimes. :)
why don't you check it out:
http://www.genealogywise.com/group/mostwantedancestorslostandfound
:)
You can very well have solved some of the missing problems. I haven't chased it for 4 or 5 years and at the rate the new technology and internet expand, it's obvious I should get back to it. There is one potential problem to keep in mind, and that is that there was a Wheatley that came over from England in the 17th or 16th century and I have to be careful to not get mixed up with their descendants. I'll have to take what you put here and compare with what I have. I have a hunch that the Rev. may be a descendant of the earlier Wheatley but I have to check them all like any good researcher. I'll come back after I've checked what you gave me.
Hi Carl-
I've done some 'googling' and found that Rev Richard Wheatley was a well-known Methodist Minister, and biographer. He died June 10, 1909, in his 79th year. So he was born circa 1830-31, and on all the census records I found he was from England. He was interred at Hancock, NY.
I looked at the UK census records and I'm not finding a Richard with a father Isaac in 1841. I'm seeing Richards as head of household, as opposed to Richard.
I would hazard a guess that the two or three brothers all sailed together to the US in the late 1850s early 1860. Then for some reason two of them stayed in Connecticut and the other went south?
Footnote has excellent confederate records such as roster and payments and prisoner of war statements, we just have to figure out the first name? I can try William, Edward and Isaac and see what pops up?
I see a Richard Wheatley, from England, born 1831; in Hudson, NY In Columbia County, on the 1870 census, he appears to be a clergyman? And there is a Richard Wheatley who served in the 28th Connecticut Regiment as Chaplain in the Civil War.
In 1870 Richard is married to Laura, has children Mary, Joseph and Elizabeth.
In 1880, I find he is listed as a Methodist Clergyman, and he is in Highlands, Orange County, NY. Laura is still alive, they have three children living with them. By 1900. Laura has died, Richard is living with his son Joseph, daughter in law, Olissa B, granddaughter Marjorie, and has a servant, Edith McGinnis. Richard is listed as Clergyman, they are in Phillipstown, Putnam County, NY.
So I would guess James and Richard both served for Connecticut, we jsut need to see who else came over. The 1900 census did not list an immigration year for Richard.
Hi-
I found this on Ancestry:
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Mary Yockney
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1817
Christening Place: Saint Paul Covent Garden, Middlesex, Eng
Father's Name: Samuel Foysten Yockney
Mother's Name: Laetitia
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Luke Hansard
Source Citation: Place: Saint Paul Covent Garden, Middlesex, Eng; Collection: Dr. William's Library; Nonconformist Registers; Date Range: 1815 - 1832; Film Number: 815999.
Hi-
Do you know where in England he came from? I found just a couple families that match up on the 1841 and 1851 UK Census records, there are a couple that have brothers close to an age that would make sense-
Hi again-
Was your James Wheatley from England? And his wife was Sarah? I see a James Wheatley in CT on the 1900 census born 1839 in England, who was an Oysterman.
I also notice that there is a James Wheatley who applied for a pension, so there should be a pension file for him.
Hi-
I found this on Ancestry- it was a write up re the 6th Infantry Regiment of Connecticut:
In April, 1864, the regiment was transferred to Virginia,
and took part in the campaign of that year, being in the
command of General Butler. May 9th, it was engaged in the
action at Chester Station on the Petersburg road, and again on
May 10th, at the same place. On May 16th it was engaged in the
battle of Drewry's Bluff on Proctor's Creek, and on May 20th
and June 2d in skirmishes at Bermuda Hundred. May 27th Colonel
Duryea resigned, and subsequently Alfred P. Rockwell, Captain
of the First Connecticut Light Battery, was promoted Colonel,
and proved to be a brave and capable officer.
from what I see on Wikipedia, the Battle of Yellow tavern was in Virginia on May 11, 1864. So it's possible they were near there, but it wasn't written up in the information on Ancestry.
Here's another link if you haven't seen it already
http://www.nps.gov/frsp/yellow.htm
Have you found your GGG grandfather James Wheatley on the 1860 census? That may give you the name of his brother, and then you might be able to determine if his brother was at Yellow Tavern.
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If you join the other group, I would try to come up with what question you'd like to get answered- if you'd like to try to connect James to Richard or James to an Isaac Jane family.
I would post the information you have on James, sort of a timeline, and list the records, and possibly make a list of questions you are trying to answer.
I'm one of the administrators of a really good 'brick wall' group here, called "Most Wanted" It really helps to have other folks look at our puzzle pieces sometimes. :)
why don't you check it out:
http://www.genealogywise.com/group/mostwantedancestorslostandfound
:)
I've done some 'googling' and found that Rev Richard Wheatley was a well-known Methodist Minister, and biographer. He died June 10, 1909, in his 79th year. So he was born circa 1830-31, and on all the census records I found he was from England. He was interred at Hancock, NY.
I looked at the UK census records and I'm not finding a Richard with a father Isaac in 1841. I'm seeing Richards as head of household, as opposed to Richard.
I would hazard a guess that the two or three brothers all sailed together to the US in the late 1850s early 1860. Then for some reason two of them stayed in Connecticut and the other went south?
Footnote has excellent confederate records such as roster and payments and prisoner of war statements, we just have to figure out the first name? I can try William, Edward and Isaac and see what pops up?
I see a Richard Wheatley, from England, born 1831; in Hudson, NY In Columbia County, on the 1870 census, he appears to be a clergyman? And there is a Richard Wheatley who served in the 28th Connecticut Regiment as Chaplain in the Civil War.
In 1870 Richard is married to Laura, has children Mary, Joseph and Elizabeth.
In 1880, I find he is listed as a Methodist Clergyman, and he is in Highlands, Orange County, NY. Laura is still alive, they have three children living with them. By 1900. Laura has died, Richard is living with his son Joseph, daughter in law, Olissa B, granddaughter Marjorie, and has a servant, Edith McGinnis. Richard is listed as Clergyman, they are in Phillipstown, Putnam County, NY.
So I would guess James and Richard both served for Connecticut, we jsut need to see who else came over. The 1900 census did not list an immigration year for Richard.
I found this on Ancestry:
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Mary Yockney
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1817
Christening Place: Saint Paul Covent Garden, Middlesex, Eng
Father's Name: Samuel Foysten Yockney
Mother's Name: Laetitia
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Luke Hansard
Source Citation: Place: Saint Paul Covent Garden, Middlesex, Eng; Collection: Dr. William's Library; Nonconformist Registers; Date Range: 1815 - 1832; Film Number: 815999.
Do you know where in England he came from? I found just a couple families that match up on the 1841 and 1851 UK Census records, there are a couple that have brothers close to an age that would make sense-
Was your James Wheatley from England? And his wife was Sarah? I see a James Wheatley in CT on the 1900 census born 1839 in England, who was an Oysterman.
I also notice that there is a James Wheatley who applied for a pension, so there should be a pension file for him.
I found this on Ancestry- it was a write up re the 6th Infantry Regiment of Connecticut:
In April, 1864, the regiment was transferred to Virginia,
and took part in the campaign of that year, being in the
command of General Butler. May 9th, it was engaged in the
action at Chester Station on the Petersburg road, and again on
May 10th, at the same place. On May 16th it was engaged in the
battle of Drewry's Bluff on Proctor's Creek, and on May 20th
and June 2d in skirmishes at Bermuda Hundred. May 27th Colonel
Duryea resigned, and subsequently Alfred P. Rockwell, Captain
of the First Connecticut Light Battery, was promoted Colonel,
and proved to be a brave and capable officer.
from what I see on Wikipedia, the Battle of Yellow tavern was in Virginia on May 11, 1864. So it's possible they were near there, but it wasn't written up in the information on Ancestry.
Here's another link if you haven't seen it already
http://www.nps.gov/frsp/yellow.htm
Kate
Have you found your GGG grandfather James Wheatley on the 1860 census? That may give you the name of his brother, and then you might be able to determine if his brother was at Yellow Tavern.
Kate
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