I'm H2a2, very similar to the CRS based on HVR1, HVR2 and the Coding Region results. Been recently working with other H2a2's that are potentially related. Wish everyone luck finding more relatives. It's been rewarding for me.
I had both HVR-1 and HVR-2 tested at Family Tree DNA and turned out to be just plain old H. I match one other person at both HVR-1 and HVR-2. We have not been able to identify a common ancestor. Is there any way, short of the very expensive FGS, to determine my subclade more precisely?
My husband's mtDNA results have just come through from Family Tree DNA and he is a haplogroup H (so far only HVR1 tested). Rather aptly his maternal line is from Cambridgeshire, the home of the Cambridge Reference Sequence! His maternal line surnames include BERRYMAN, KEMP and CHAPMAN. The KEMPS and CHAPMANS are both from the small village of Thriplow in Cambridgeshire. The line goes back to Harriet Chapman, daughter of George and Sarah Chapman. She was baptised on 28th September 1794 in Thriplow. Are there any other Hs from Cambridgeshire?
I am also a H3. I was a bit hard to define so had to do the full FGS thing, apparently us H group are a bit like that. My partner and I have a comprehensive data base concerning H3. My partner is very skilled in reading all the data ( has a science degree) and has defined that there are sub-clades of this group that have not yet been recognized.I have the mutation 12811C any other h3s with this. Cheers
Thanks Daryl. Have you been reading up on the H group and H3? I have found the article on Wikipedia and (can not find the paper at the moment) an academic paper concerning H3 and aids, quote "Studies have suggested haplogroup H3 is highly protective against AIDS progression". I would like to get the Autosomal CCR 5 test done at FTDNA ...I am interested to see if I am immune. I come from the Netherlands but grew up in New Zealand. I can trace my family tree back to the early 1500...so we have been in one place for a long time.
I'm just a plain old H and not really certain what I can do with this information. I can trace my maternal ancestral line so far only to the mid 1800s. My grandmothe's maiden name was Browne. She was born in Caherduff, Cong, County Mayo, Ireland. Her mother was Mary Nally, born in Muckrussaune, Baallinrobe, Ireland. Her mother was either a Pemrick or a Feerick (I have no definitive proof yet), born in an as-yet unknown townland in the Cong/Ballinrobe area in Mayo. Is there anyone who can assit me in understanding the finer points of all this?
H by itself mainly means European and since up to 40% of Europeans are in this very successful haplogroup and I really can't go much farther without more information.
So let's surmise a couple of things. First off if you have tested HVR1 (low level test) that will provide the haplogroup H. Testing HVR1 and 2 will yield the same results but could be refined to at least a subclade of H. But the Full Genetic Sequence test (Mega) will provide the subclade information that you need (if you want to know). I was an H for the longest time and with the FGS I have been refined to H2a2a, (since the subclade info is located in the coding region of the mtDNA). So if you had on the lowest level test, upgrade to the mid level test and you will get fewer matches and potentially closer genetic relatives on your match list. To go the extra mile and pay the extra cash you can have the FGS, but if your genealogical paperwork is sufficient to clarify a match then you may not need to test to the limit and a mid level test may suffice.
I'm H11, a relatively rare group. My earliest known ancestor was Mary Ann Kelly, born 1825 in Tompkins County, NY. Her mother may have been a Wyckoff. Would love to have input from other H11s.
I copied this of another site as it was worth sharing....very true Genealogy humor
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Genealogists live in the past lane...
Can a first cousin, once removed, return?
A step backwards is progress to a Genealogist.
Genealogy: Tracing descent from someone who didn't.
Heredity: Everyone believes in it - until their children act foolish.
Relativity Theory: Everybody is related - if you go back far enough.
I'm not stuck [our research brick walls] - I'm ancestrally challenged.
Genealogy: Looking for threads - in a haystack full of needles.
I trace my family history - so I will know who to blame.
Friends come and go - relatives tend to accumulate.
Life: Lived forward & understood backwards.
Genealogy: Not a hobby - an obsession?
Divorce: A family tree pruning...
Part of text from the article is "Testing the hypothesis that the human genome has been shaped by infectious disease, this group looked at whether haplogroup H, the most common type of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in Europe, contributes to the subtle genetic variation in survival after sepsis.
This may explain why we are so many and a relative new haplogroup.
Another interesting article involving Mummies in the Tarim Basin in China...hey guys our ancestors were there too!!! YES in China and in the Bronze age at that.We do come from hardy strong stock...Lets us H's be very proud.
My known maternal line:
Mary Cox, b. abt 1801, Wateringbury, Kent, England
Susanna Terry, b. 07-SEP-1831, Wateringbury, Kent, England
Maude Belle Jeffery, b. 1860, Versailles, NY, USA
Marion Arlene Brown, b. 13-MAY-1899, Versailles, NY, USA
Me, b. 1943, Canton, OH, USA
Hi Mardon, what company did you use for your sequence? Your mutation 16093C is one of the mutations that defines H1F
H1f 4452C, 7309C, 9066G, 16093C, 16189C
Looks to me like you are not just a H* but H1F subclade.
What do you other more learned Hs out there think?
Diana
Jul 9, 2009
Joan Foster
Jul 10, 2009
Robert Sliwinski
I'm H2a2, very similar to the CRS based on HVR1, HVR2 and the Coding Region results. Been recently working with other H2a2's that are potentially related. Wish everyone luck finding more relatives. It's been rewarding for me.
Jul 12, 2009
Richard Hill
Jul 13, 2009
Samantha John
Jul 14, 2009
Dorrliss E. Hale Ware
Jul 15, 2009
Michael Wilson
Jul 15, 2009
Debbie Kennett
Jul 30, 2009
Alexander Retzlaff
Sep 17, 2009
Daryl Polley
Sep 18, 2009
Peiternella Suzzanna Hymen
Oct 21, 2009
Daryl Polley
Oct 21, 2009
Peiternella Suzzanna Hymen
Oct 21, 2009
Katie Heitert Wilkinson
Oct 21, 2009
Robert Sliwinski
H by itself mainly means European and since up to 40% of Europeans are in this very successful haplogroup and I really can't go much farther without more information.
So let's surmise a couple of things. First off if you have tested HVR1 (low level test) that will provide the haplogroup H. Testing HVR1 and 2 will yield the same results but could be refined to at least a subclade of H. But the Full Genetic Sequence test (Mega) will provide the subclade information that you need (if you want to know). I was an H for the longest time and with the FGS I have been refined to H2a2a, (since the subclade info is located in the coding region of the mtDNA). So if you had on the lowest level test, upgrade to the mid level test and you will get fewer matches and potentially closer genetic relatives on your match list. To go the extra mile and pay the extra cash you can have the FGS, but if your genealogical paperwork is sufficient to clarify a match then you may not need to test to the limit and a mid level test may suffice.
Nov 17, 2009
Kay Fordham
Dec 27, 2009
Kay Fordham
Dec 28, 2009
Peiternella Suzzanna Hymen
• Genealogy Taglines ~
Genealogists live in the past lane...
Can a first cousin, once removed, return?
A step backwards is progress to a Genealogist.
Genealogy: Tracing descent from someone who didn't.
Heredity: Everyone believes in it - until their children act foolish.
Relativity Theory: Everybody is related - if you go back far enough.
I'm not stuck [our research brick walls] - I'm ancestrally challenged.
Genealogy: Looking for threads - in a haystack full of needles.
I trace my family history - so I will know who to blame.
Friends come and go - relatives tend to accumulate.
Life: Lived forward & understood backwards.
Genealogy: Not a hobby - an obsession?
Divorce: A family tree pruning...
Jan 3, 2010
Peiternella Suzzanna Hymen
http://www.flemingforum.org.uk/news.asp?aid=1362
Part of text from the article is "Testing the hypothesis that the human genome has been shaped by infectious disease, this group looked at whether haplogroup H, the most common type of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in Europe, contributes to the subtle genetic variation in survival after sepsis.
This may explain why we are so many and a relative new haplogroup.
Feb 22, 2010
Peiternella Suzzanna Hymen
http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1741-7007-8-15.pdf
www.biomedcentral.com
www.biomedcentral.com
Feb 22, 2010
Mardon Erbland
mtDNA haplogroup H*
HVR1: 16093C, 16212G, 16438A, 16519C
HVR2: 150T, 159C, 243G, 263G, 315.1C
CR: 750G, 1438G, 4769G, 8860G, 15326G
My known maternal line:
Mary Cox, b. abt 1801, Wateringbury, Kent, England
Susanna Terry, b. 07-SEP-1831, Wateringbury, Kent, England
Maude Belle Jeffery, b. 1860, Versailles, NY, USA
Marion Arlene Brown, b. 13-MAY-1899, Versailles, NY, USA
Me, b. 1943, Canton, OH, USA
Y-DNA haplogroup Q1a3*
P36.2+ ML56+ L57+ M346+ L53+ L54+ L55+ L213+ L232+ M3- M323-
Websites: www.ErblandBrown.org & www.Erbland.org
Mar 12, 2010
Peiternella Suzzanna Hymen
H1f 4452C, 7309C, 9066G, 16093C, 16189C
Looks to me like you are not just a H* but H1F subclade.
What do you other more learned Hs out there think?
Mar 15, 2010