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Comment by James P. LaLone on January 24, 2010 at 9:10am

The Feb/Mar 2010 issue of INTERNET GENEALOGY has a couple of interesting articles on Canadian research: “The Best Canadian Genealogy Blogs!”, by Janice Nickerson, p. 26 and “Top 10 Sites for French-Canadian Research”, also by Janice Nickerson, p.32

Comment by James Alfred Locke Miller Jr. on January 13, 2010 at 11:31pm

Have many old New England lineages family trees to keep things straight, but not for data. But on Shatswell Rundlett, Sr and Mercy Leavitt, I have note "Louisbourg, Nova Scotia", They were the children of Nehemiah Leavitt, Sr., and Mrs. Alice Seely/Gilman?, and Charles Rundlett, Sr., and Mrs. Mary Shatswell Smith. Mrs. Mercy Leavitt Rundlett Sr. had Mrs. Mary "Molly" Rundlett Barker, wife of Maj. Ebenezer Barker, Sr. Also have this note: Robinson-Hilton Louisbourg, Nova Scotia 1747, drowned Cape Breton, Nov. 20, 176? (part of my paper missing, had year)(1764), Robinson's daughter wed Mr. Downe of Rochester, N.H. I don't descend a Down. I do descend 1730's Exeter, N.H., Christopher Robinson who wed Elizabeth Hilton, daughter of Dudley Hilton and Mercy Hall. Son of Exeter, Edward Hilton, Jr., and Ann Dudley, children of Exeter lawyer Edw. Hilton, Sr., ans Mrs Catherine Shapleigh Twreworgye (brother of explorer Capt. Wm. Hilton, Jr), she the sister of Capt. Nicholaus Shapleigh who drafted early charts of the Cape Fear River, 1660's. Mrs. Mercy Hall Hilton was the daughter of Judge Kinsley Hall and Elizabth Dudley, son of Lt. Ralph Hall, Sr., and Mary Chesley, daughter of Exeter Rev. Samuel Dudley and 3rd, widow Mrs. Elizabeth Smith Gilman. Mrs Ann Dudley Hilton Jr's father was also Rev. Samuel Dudley by first wife Mary Winthrop. Christopher's daughter Elizabeth Robinson wed Rochester, N.H., inn keeper, legislator, Patriot, one-armed Maj. Barnabas Palmer, Sr., who had Margaret "Molly" Palmer who wed Dover, N.H., legislator Patriot, LtCol David Copp, Sr., a Capt. at the Battle of Bunker Hill. About 25 years ago, my Bell Lab's engineer father and I visited Ft. St. Louisbourg and loved it, "Like Williamsbourg, Virginia". At the Alexander Graham Bell Museum I have a favorite picture of dad looking up at his hero, Mrs. and Mrs. Bell. If I did a movie on bell, invention would be in the background, and a love story in the foreground. Jim

Comment by Al (alpobc) on January 13, 2010 at 7:59pm

In reply to James Alfred Locke Miller Jr. re: Louisbourg.
Hi James;
You state that you descend from an early New England couple married in Fort Louisbourg, Nova Scotia, when the New Englanders invaded. Do you know which time? Louisbourg was 'invaded' twice. once in 1745 and later returned to France and again in 1758 and destroyed by the British Sappers.
There are a few websites for the Fortress of Louisbourg. For genealogy etc try this one http://fortress.uccb.ns.ca/ for general info try one of these http://www.louisbourg.ca/fort/ or http://www.fortressoflouisbourg.ca/ the folks in Louisbourg are quite friendly, I should know, my mom was born and raised there!
As for soldiers memorials for service in the 1700's you might want to Contact Veterans Affairs Canada
General Inquiries

1-866-522-2122 (English)
1-866-522-2022 (French)
Veterans Affairs Canada Web site http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/general/
If you have a question - be sure to check out the FAQ page. The answer you are looking for may be there.
E-mail: information@vac-acc.gc.ca

I hope this helps.
Al Parsons
Duncan, British Columbia, Canada

Comment by James Alfred Locke Miller Jr. on January 10, 2010 at 1:01pm

Greetimgs from Southport, North Carolina: I descend an early New England couple married Fort Louisburg?, Nova Scotia, when the New Englanders invaded there, but I doubt they count as Canadians. I think he drowned there too.

I have several early, defunct up-river Mobile, Alabama, lineages such as Canadian marine Maj. Francois Trudeau who 1702 built early Mobile's first fort and 1704 wed "Pelican Girll" Jeanne Louis Burel. Her two "Pelican Girl" sisters wed Mobile, ex French Canadians also.

Their father Etienne Burel had been banished from Canada for calling it's governor corrupt. After a hearing in France substained him, he and wife (Canadian "King's Daughter", Mme. Marguerite Roussel Ducheron) were chaperones of 27 ex-French covenant girls to Mobile to wed French marines.

Mme. Burel/Ducheron's parents were Jean-Baptiste Roussel and Louise Memi. Etienne's, pastry cook and old Mobile's first inn keeper, were Pierre Burel and Jeanne Vanier. Maj. Trudeau's were Etienne Trudeau and Adrienne Barbier, daughter of Gilbert Barbier and Catherine de La Veau, Etienne's were Francois Trudeau and Catherine Matinier. Etienne's Montreal fortified stone home is now, I believe, the eatery Auberge Le Saint-Gabriel, depuis 1754, at 426 rue St-Gabriel, Montreal.

My Maj. Trudeau's (I descend daughter Marie Francoise Trudeau who wed French marine aide Maj. Pierre Gabriel de Juzan, killed in combat against Chickasaws, 1730's First Battle of Ackia, Tupelo, Missisippi Military District; his kin killed Second Battle were Canadian marines aide Maj. Charles Pierre de Liette and Capt. Antoine de Tonty (brother Baron Alphonse de Tonty owned Etienne Trudeau's home a while; brother Henri de Tonty is considered a founder of today's Mobile, their father "invented" the di Tonti system of insurence, his wife a di Lietti, I think. Maj. Juzan's mother, Michelle de Liette) were killed Second Battle of Ackia.

Maj. Trudeau's son or grandson, Spanish cavalry service LtCol Zenon Trudeau's old home, "Brulatour Courtyard", 520 Royal Street, still stands in the New Orleans French Quarter. He was later Lt. Gov. of Upper Louisiana at St. Louis (MO). Old "Don Pedro's" widowed young last wife, returned to her Canadian parent's home, the still standing "Spanish Customs House", St. John's Bayou, New Orleans.

DNA research indcates I am incorrect (wrong wife) in my former belief I descended Canadian Jean Baptiste Colon dit La Violette by his Kaskaskia Illini wife who's grandchild, Marie Henrette Rochon wed my Pierre Francois Gabriel de Juzan, His Spanish Majesty's Indian Commissioner to Alabama. A genealogist long said my lineage was via wife Catherine Parent but a Native American genealogist whom I also respect, said Parent had no issue.

What I do know is "Don Pedro's" (DAR ally Patriot?, as he ran Spanish service agents amongst the Indians, against British agents amongst the Indians) daughter Mme. Marie Josephine de Juzan Hollinger's (tomb behind Mobile Public Library, says she lived Mobile under four flags; buried near her, son-in-law U.S. Senator, Col. George Washington Owen, Mayor of Mobile, who's daughter wed Adm. Semmes of the CSS Alabama, Gen. Luke W. Finley, Sr., and Adm. Oliver Semmes, descs. (Josephine alledgedly escorted Gen. Lafayette at the Mobile ball).

Daughter Margeriet Hollinger of Hollinger's Island off modern Mobile, wed my Col. Gilbert Christian Russell, Sr., 1815 3rd U.S. Infantry, for whom Russell County, Alabama is named. His wife's stepmother was the daughter of Creek Chief Samuel 'Sam" Moniac, Sr.

Col. Russell was the mentor of his wife's step-brother, 5th U.S. Infantry, Lt. David Moniac, West Point's first Native American graduate. Maj. David Moniac, Alabama Mounted Creek Volunteers (dragoons?) in U.S. service, was killed at the Battle of Wahoo Swamp, Florida, Second Seminole War, over 50 bullets in his corps. I applied for his memorial stone at Bushnel National Cemetery, and gratis the U.S. government inscribed on the obverse, Gen. Jesup's (think he disliked Indians?) remark that David was "As brave as any man who has drawn a sword and faced the enemy").

A David Moniac descendant tells me David's remains were removed Bushnell. David had first been buried with others in the swamp road, the only high ground, and buried several more times. His father Chief Moniac had an Episcopal service for him, which is why I applied for the Episcopal cross rather than Native American spiritual symbol.

Traditionally it is said that David is in a mass grave under one or two small pyramids at the lovely little St. Augustine, Fla., National Cemetery. I originally tried to get him a memorial stone only a few paces from the mass graves, sans his name. Saying he was entiled to a named gravestone or memorial stone. And there was an enjoining gravestone row with a small bush in the row at which if removed, David's stone could go, to complete that row. But St. Augustine's was then, a long "Closed" cemetery.

Does Canada supply memorial stones to fallen Canadian marines such as Maj. de Liette and Capt. de Tonty. The Ackia battle site is a U.S. National Park I believe, and if the stones were not permitted there, a nearby Catholic church might accept them?

Ditto, does France supply memorial stones for it's fallen in combat marines of foreign (then French?) soil, such as Maj. de Juzan?

As far as I know, Canadian marine Maj. Trudeua's grave is now unknown, does Canada supply memorial stones for for it's marines who died afield in service? If his memorial stone could not be placed near Mme. Hollinger's, perhaps the old Mobile Catholic church would accept it? What are the rules on Canadian marine memorial stones fallen in combat, or died whilst in it's service beyond Canada?

Maj. de Liette, Maj. de Juzan, and Capt. de Tonty, after their deaths were alledgedly considered for the French, Order of St. Louis; but no pension of that Order was awarded their widows, that I know of.

Jim

P.S. Though then the only civil servant in a class of U.S. Marines, the USMC helped me get my BS in Aviation--go US Marines. In that class was a male American born black Marine married to a black U.S. Marine, still a citizen of Bermuda (love Bermuda); I asked if she had three years in the USMC. "Yes!" I pointed out then she could become a U.S. citizen? She said "Hummmmmph; and NOT BE ONE OF HER MAJESTY'S SUBJECTS!".

I understood: two of my ancestors Capt. Philip Yonge, and his father, the Hon. Henry Yonge, Sr., were Loyalists. Both had been Surveyor-Generals of Georgia, and by publication, banished from Georgia upon pain of death should they return; to British East Florida, where Philip's brother, Maj. Henry Yonge, Jr., was H.M. Attorney-General of British East Florida, and as such, annulled the indentures of 1,000 wrongfully enslaved New Smyrna Beach, Fla., Menorcans; and with Philip, commanded a company of them at St. Augustine.

Henry Sr. went from British East Florida, to the Bahamas, and died in England (per his Loyalist Claims)--all "British controlled territory". Decades ago I applied to join the United Empire Loyalist on their banished Loyalist service in "British controlled territory" which I thought was more territory than just Canada. Their Loyalty to "British controlled territory" was not good enough; only Canada counted as "British controlled territory". Sorry, their Loyalty does not count. Exclusive Canadian "British controled territory" only Loyalists, not inclusive Loyalists; the UEL.

Henry Sr's dad was the Hon. Francis Yonge, Lords Proprietor's Surveyor-General of the Bahamas, Carolinas, and Georgia. Henry Sr. had been born Lisborn, Portugal, when his father Francis, was H.M. Commissioner of Ordnance for the fortification of Giobraltar. He was of the Cayton, Salop, Yorkshire, England, "Army" Yonges. The more distinguished "Navy" Yonges are from Portsmouth, England.

My late grandfather was Edw. Yonge Wootten of 11 S. Third St., Wilmington, N.C. (across from Lord Cornwallis House), his Hill-Wright-Wootten home, rebuilt 1802 after the 1799 city fire. It was there before the sidewalk that went around it. All but I, gone; and age 66; I soon too. No descendants. "Adieu"!

Comment by Carol Fadke on January 8, 2010 at 12:28pm

Looking for Davey, Allward, Hoffman
carolfadke@yahoo.com

Comment by Carolyn MacKenzie on December 27, 2009 at 3:51pm

My main interest is Settlers of the Red River Settlement from 1812 onwards-
I do also have a huge picture database of many of the families of the Red River and early settlers coming from the East - may just have the one you are looking for.
through the years have collected a good cross section of web sites with great Canadian comtent.
regards Carolyn

Comment by Donna Smith on November 22, 2009 at 10:55pm

Lisa A. (Thamm) Spegal I just posted the census of John and Sarah Falvin in my photos son James .Its all your Happy Holidays

Comment by Lisa A. (Thamm) Spegal on November 19, 2009 at 2:06pm

Does anyone here have access to the 1851 census of Canada? I need a lookup, it's on ancestry.com too but I don't have a subscription there anymore.

Kings county, NB for Flav*n (they've been listed under Flaven/ Flavan/Flavin & Flavahen/Flahavan, etc) should be James, but the one I saw indexed was John & Sarah , if anyone could take a look for me, I'd sure appreciate it!!

Comment by James P. LaLone on November 9, 2009 at 5:35pm

Colect all TREMBLAY / TROMBLEY, TREMBLY / TROMBLY, etc., MELOCHE / MALOSH, etc., LALONDE / LALANDE/ LALONE, etc. and LeROY-AUDY / LARROWAY data. Also interested in TINKES(S), BECKSTEAD / BEDSTEDT, etc., MONTOUR / MONTURE, HAIN(E)S [of Nova Scotia], BEGG of Stormont Co., and the French-Canadian families who settled in Arenac Co., MI

Comment by Dennis Deike on October 25, 2009 at 2:33pm

research Albert Edward HALL line b. 14 Feb 1874 pb. Pt. Edward, Lambton, Ontario, Canada d 30 Nov 1933 pd. Franklin Park, Cook, IL I need help on Alberts' parents --- Robert Alfred HALL b. abt 1850 pb. Hamilton, Canada Alberts' mother is Mary CLARK b. abt. 1853 pb England town u/k I was told Robert has Scottish blood ?? thanks for any help dbdeike@msn.com

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