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Comment by John Scott Noble on November 4, 2012 at 3:17pm

Hi John, I also have put together a family tree for this family, starting with James Noble of Glassdrumond, County Fermanagh, born circa 1654 died Sept 21 1719 at the age of 65.  He was buried in the parish church cemetery. Aghalurcher parish, County Fermanagh.

You are probably aware of the articles in 'The Irish Genealogist' by Talbot Green about the Noble families in Counties Fermanagh, Monaghan etc.  I found them extremely useful in augmenting my family tree.

Comment by John Noble on November 4, 2012 at 3:04pm

Hi Scott - I am familiar with that and in fact have kind of family tree made up of that family!

Comment by John Scott Noble on November 4, 2012 at 2:52pm

Hi, I was reading Ray and James Thomas' comments about John Francis Noble who came to Meriden CT in 1853 age 4.  What I believe might be significant is the name Francis.  There is a manuscript # 30, which is part of the Swanzy Pedigree Notebooks about the family of Francis Noble and Susanna Woolley from County Monaghan who maybe ancestors of your Francis. 

Francis and Susanna were residents of Peterborow, Parish of Donamonie, County Monaghan.  Francis died in 1740.

Are you familiar with this manuscript or this family??  

Comment by John Noble on November 4, 2012 at 8:28am

Well after 3 months, my 111-marker results are finally in. Ray and I now are a genetic distance of 3. I had hoped to stay the distance of 1 we had after the 67 markers, but 3 is still excellent. It is the best results so far!

Comment by James Thomas Noble on August 6, 2012 at 2:30pm

I also wonder if the Nobles who stayed (the well-documented ones, to whom none of us appear to be related) are different somehow from the poorly documented ones that gave rise to us.

Comment by Raymond A. Noble on August 6, 2012 at 11:04am

Yes, Jim. Back in high school (my class is celebrating our 50th high school reunion this year!), I strongly suspected that our seemingly staunchly Catholic Nobles, descendants from Ireland, had come from Protestant families at some point -- even Irish-American Catholic priests named Noble turned out to be in that category. In the intervening decades, that seemed even more likely when we learned that our John Noble of Meriden CT came from the County Fermanagh Nobles, who were staunch Protestants. That now seems even more evident from the latest close DNA match with our moderator, John Noble, who comes from a protestant family (For everyone else: as John mentioned here a few days ago, John and I are now awaiting the arrival of our 111 marker Y-DNA kits that may help pinpoint that relationship even more clearly). This opens a new string of tantalizing questions about the religion of the parentss of our first American ancestor: John Francis Noble, who arrived in Meriden CT at age four and was raised by the Scollan family there. DNA once again is proving to be a remarkable investigative tool in unravelling family mysteries!

Comment by James Thomas Noble on August 6, 2012 at 10:10am

Here's another twist on the Noble story. Our John (age 4) was raised by Scollons in Connecticut. He married Mary Moran from Co. Leitrim in 1869 and had 6 children. The whole family was very Catholic. It appears from reviewing data from our moderator (he and I are a 66/67 match) that his ancestors and a lot of other Nobles were Ulster Plantation/Protestant Ascendency people. Now, my ancestor may have been part of that family, but on the other hand, those Y chromosomes do get around, don't they?

Comment by Michael W. Noble on August 5, 2012 at 4:40pm

Correction:  myhistory.com below should read my heritage.com -- sorry for the error.

Comment by Michael W. Noble on August 5, 2012 at 4:37pm

David....I'm also not aware of any master site, although we could probably create one.  The biggest problem I see is that the folks on this site represent 5 or 6 different lines of Nobles, mostly from Co. Fermanagh, for which we have not been able to establish a common ancestor.  There is an Ontario line, Illinois line, South Carolina line, Missouri line, 2 Australia lines, and possibly one or two others.  Many of us have done the DNA testing and know that we are closely related, but like you, have hit one dead end after another.

As John says, we all maintain our separate trees.  I have mine posted on both ancestry.com and myhistory.com where they are constantly updated by new databases coming online and by new trees placed online.  However, we could create our own website that is kept separate.  I belong to another family history organization that does just that -- and we have over 70,000 names.  We use TNG (The Next Generation - www.lythgoes.net) software with password protection and it is only available to members of our organization -- not to ancestry.com or familysearch.org.  I'm not in favor of doing anything on a social networking site.

Anyone else have any interest in a Noble Family website?  I'd be happy to help get it organized and acquire the software (about $35), then we could share the cost of the website hosting ($5 per month) via a membership fee.  Any discussion?

Comment by John Noble on August 5, 2012 at 3:49pm

Hi David  - I am not aware of any master site although there might well be. I think most people have their own family trees as I do. I do not put any of my trees up on the internet - especially NOT with Ancestry. I promised those who provide me information that it would not go on the internet! That being said, I am always willing to share what I have!

There is an Arthur Noble born in 1654 in Ireland - his parents are believed to have come from Cornwall in England. The Noble name comes from France to England and from there to Scotland and Ireland!

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