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Comment by Suzanne Kier Himmelreich /Storey on August 9, 2017 at 4:45am

Descendants%20of%20Henry%20Noble.pdf

As you can see, some of these lived/live in the US, I hope I am not breaching anyone's privacy

Comment by Suzanne Kier Himmelreich /Storey on August 9, 2017 at 3:50am

Hi Michael, thanks for your info. I have come across some of these names before, and I know there were a lot of Storys/Storeys in Belturbet, and Cavan in general. My major problem is that I can't find any ancestors or siblings for my gggrandfather Oliver. It would have been unusual for him to be an only child.

I will send the details of the Longford Nobles via an attachment.......

Comment by Michael W. Noble on August 8, 2017 at 8:24am

Suzanne....On the DNA side, I match Terry Lee and Thomas Raymond 100% at 67 markers, but we have not yet identified our common ancestor.

On the family tree side, I have several connections with Storys:

1. William Noble (b. 1737 Co. Monaghan, d. 1789 Co. Fermanagh) married Elizabeth Story (b. 1745 Co. Wexford, d. 1819 Co. Cavan).  Elizabeth's first husband was John Mulholland.  Elizabeth's father was Rev. Joseph Story (b. 1711 Co. Tyrone, d. 1784 Co. Monaghan), and his father was Thomas Story (d. Co Tyrone).  I have no other information on Joseph or Thomas.  
2. Dr. Brabazon Noble (b. 1779 Dublin, d. 1830 Co. Louth), son of William and Elizabeth above, married Sophia Burrowes (b. 1780 Co. Cavan, d. 1817).  Sophia's father was Robert Burrowes (b. 1750 Co. Cavan) and mother was Sophia Story.  Sophia Story's father was Joseph Story (b. 1724, d. 1767) and mother was Frances Arabella Sneyd (d. 1809).
3. It is possible that Elizabeth Story, who married William Noble, and Sophia Story, who married Robert Burrowes, were related but I have not been able to confirm that.
4. In a related line, Mungo Noble (b. 1692, d. 1750 Co. Fermanagh) married Mary Penelope Leslie (b. 1708, d. 1760).  Mary's father was Rev. William Leslie (b. 1680 Co. Clare, d. 1762 Co. Fermanagh) and her mother was Penelope Story (no info).

I don't know if Storys and Storeys or Burrows and Burrowes are the same families -- spellings varied through the years.

Comment by John Noble on August 8, 2017 at 7:59am

Ah - I see on the 12 matches I do match at 0 distance with your brother - but nothing beyond that. I do not have Storey's in my Noble line. But I have seen that name in other Noble lines from Ireland.

Comment by John Noble on August 8, 2017 at 6:46am

Hi Suzanne - what company did you have your DNA done? Mine is with FamilyTreeDNA but I do not see your brother's name in my matches. I too am now being tested for the z198 sub-clade! At the y-111, I am a genetic distance of 3 with Dr. James Thomas and 7 with Thomas Raymond!

Comment by Suzanne Kier Himmelreich /Storey on August 8, 2017 at 5:59am

Hello everyone......

My most distant ancestor is Oliver Storey, b 1798 in Drumclee - d 1861, in Belturbet, Co Cavan, Ireland. He is my brick wall!

I have had my brother John Preston Storey, tested with FTDNA, he is R1b, and is now down to Z198, which is below DF27. His kit # 599041.

Up to 37 markers there are matches to 20 Nobles at 0 genetic distance.

I am waiting for his Y- 111 and Big Y results, due in 5-6 weeks.

I know that there were Storeys who married Nobles in Augnacliffe, County Longford during the 1800's, but I can't find a connection with my family.

My guess is that maybe there were marriages between Noble and Storey Border Reiver families, either before or after the Irish Plantations?

The names that match at 0 distance include; Thomas, Jordan Alan, Rod, Andrew, James K 111,Terry Lee, Scott, Dr James Thomas, Robert E, James, Thomas Raymond, Herbert, Balfour and some without forenames. 

I know some of these may disappear with higher testing.

Is anyone able to shed some light on this? I would love to solve some of my mysteries.........

regards

Suzanne Himmelreich (Storey) Australia

Comment by Maggi Biles on June 21, 2016 at 11:03pm

Thanks Pat will keep going back again and again to it

Comment by George "Pat" Noble on June 21, 2016 at 8:33pm

Best to be careful, but he's the only William Shaw of that age in those censuses. I wish you luck!

Comment by Maggi Biles on June 21, 2016 at 7:46pm

Hi Pat, the birth is correct and I have him in my tree on Ancestry If I do a search then I cannot get a match as most just have given Scotland as birth place though I did find one for 1851 that gave birth as Fort George which is 13 miles north of inverness so I have my doubts on that one. I will try Scotlands People for a marriage around 1833 for him to a Margaret and see what transpires.

Comment by George "Pat" Noble on June 21, 2016 at 3:28pm

Ancestry shows a William Shaw born 3 Nov 1811 to Donald Shaw and Mary Noble. It also shows a William Shaw (abt 1810), wife Margaret (abt 1810), with chilldren John (abt 1833), James (abt 1836), Jane (abt 1838), Robert (abt 1840), William (abt 1843), Margaret (abt 1845), George (abt 1847) and Agnes (abt 1849). They appear in the censuses of 1841, 51, 61 and 71. They were in Polmont Sterlingshire, among other places. Could that be your William?

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