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Comment by James Thomas Noble on August 21, 2013 at 7:35pm

I was just notified of a Y-37 match - John Barry Noble II, who lives in the UK. I've sent him an email and I will report back on any info received.

Probably going to Ireland next summer to poke around a bit.

Comment by Bruce Noble on June 16, 2013 at 5:07pm

Hi Folks: Happy Father's Day to all! A personal meeting with my "cousin" Mike Noble and his wife yesterday has inspired me to finally post something on this site. I am seeking information about the Irish background of my line of Nobles. My great-great-great grandfather, Andrew Noble emigrated from Ireland to Canada in c. 1855. He and his family settled in the town of Dunnsville, ONT located on the north side of Lake Erie. His family consisted of his wife Mary, sons Alexander, Robert, and John, and daughters Rebecca, Sarah, Mary, and Jane. Andrew evidently worked on the railroads and was killed in a train accident on Christmas Day in 1857. (I am descended from son John who was born in c. 1837.)

Where these folks came from in Ireland is not at all clear. When my great-great grandfather died in 1913, his death certificate listed his place of birth as County Down, Ireland. Elsewhere there are other references to Counties Antrim and Tyrone. So the situation is not at all clear. With this admittedly scanty information, can anybody help shed some light on where this branch of Nobles came from in Ireland?

Best Regards, Bruce Noble, Jr.

Comment by Ron Oakley on April 17, 2013 at 6:11pm

Just joined the Noble group, and wondered if anyone has heard of, or is related to the following.

My gr.grandfather Henry Noble born Mar 11, 1845 in Dromore, Co. Fermanagh,  married Margaret Mccutchen June 14, 1864 in Drumkeeran (according to IGI records, groom's father's name is John Noble, bride's fahter is James Mccutchen), and sailed for Canada the same year. They had four children, one died age 14 months in 1866, and the other three died along with their mother Margaret in 1871 of scarlett fever. Henry remarried and this second marriage produced my grandmother Marion Alma Noble.

Any help would be appreciated

Comment by John Noble on March 16, 2013 at 1:37pm

I have both of Greene's articles and in fact I wrote to him prior to the 2006 article and had a letter back from him. He shed no further light on what he had already covered in the articles. I would like to think that I can trace my ancestors back to these Nobles but so far cannot but one never knows! I would tend to think that I my line would be either from the Glassdrummond or Lisnaskea ones!

Comment by John Scott Noble on March 16, 2013 at 1:18pm

Hi Mike, I came across this article recently and found it very informative as well.  Green published a second article "Hunting The Early Nobles", Vol 12, No. 1 in 2006 which has a number of corrections to the first article plus some thoughts on where in England the Nobles of Glassdrummond might have come from.

Curious which line impacts you directly.  I believe I can trace mine back through the one from Donagh.

Scott.

Comment by Michael W. Noble on March 16, 2013 at 12:24pm

I recently obtained a copy of the article "The Nobles in Swanzy's and Betham's Extracts" by Talbot K. Green, published in The Irish Genealogist.  This has a wealth of information contained in the wills and legal filings of five groups of Nobles:

1.  The Nobles of Glassdrummond, Co. Fermanagh

2.  The Nobles of Co. Monaghan

3.  The Nobles of Lisnaskea, Co. Fermanagh

4.  The Nobles of Donagh, Co. Fermanagh

5.  Another family living in Donagh in the same period

Most of this is 18th and 19th centuries.  If anyone would like a copy, I'd be happy to send you one (file size = 10.9M) -- e-mail me at mwnoble@me.com.  Much of this impacts my line, so I've been spending a good amount of time updating my tree.

Have also been doing some work on one of my maternal German lines, the Schneiders.  Like James Thomas, I've found that German records are pretty good, but require translation.  Have got records back to the early 1700s but also have a German cousin who is doing family research, so he does all the translating!  Makes it easier for me.  

Records in England also tend to be very good, but those in Ireland were either not created (to keep them out of English hands) or were lost over time.  So, as we're all finding out, research on Irish roots is difficult. Although more and more PRONI records are coming on line each year, they're charging to see the actual document to help offset some of their budget woes.

Comment by Eileen Souza on March 16, 2013 at 10:36am

I recently found a tombstone photo of the grave of my 2nd great-grandfather, Edward Noble.  It states that he is from County Mayo.  It also gives a town and parish but so far the words have not been completely transcribed and the little we can see does not seem to match any parish or town in County Mayo. Edward was born around 1826. 

Edward migrated from Ireland during the famine and first went to England, where he met and married Mary Devine, of County Longford.  They had several chidlren in County Durham, England and then migrated to the US, where they settled in Mount Carmel, Northumberland County, PA.  

Comment by John Noble on March 16, 2013 at 10:27am

Hi James - I have not found anything more - yes Ireland is very difficult to find things prior to the 1850's it seems. In Belfast you can visit PRONI - they have an online catalog that can be searched but you have to visit if you want to look at the actual documents!

In Fermanagh, there are some historical societies that may or may not have anything. 

I tried contacting one Noble in Fermanagh - runs a real-estate agency I believe. But I never heard back. That was some years ago!

Comment by James Thomas Noble on March 16, 2013 at 10:12am

Any news from anyone? I stumbled on a pair of researchers in Germany who have given me my mother's tree back to the 1500s!

I though Ireland would be easy and Germany would be hard, but quite the opposite turns out to be the case.

If I were to travel to Enniskillen or Belfast, is there anything to be done there that can't be done sitting at my desk? Has anyone tried contacting Nobles who are living in Fermanagh today?

Comment by John Noble on November 4, 2012 at 4:59pm

That could be a strong possibility. When I did early research, I got a family tree of Maj. Arthur Noble (b. 1654) along with Francis and James. I think they are related - perhaps cousins to Arthur. SInce then throughother people I have augmented those trees but cannot of course make any link to mine! I will have to revisit this!

 

I have a copy of Talbot Green's article and alos a follow-up article he wrote in a later edition of the Irish Genealogist!

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