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Comment by Sherri S on March 9, 2010 at 6:15pm

Today I came across something I thought was a bit odd and I thought I would ask for help/comments/feedback on it.

I was reviewing the entry of My great grandfather's Samuel Christie's brother into the United States.

He arrived in Boston in 1904 and noted that his local contact was John Ruxton of Ludlow Mass.. Which is no surprise because I recently connected the Ruxton name from another great uncles middle name on his Declaration of Intent. Then I found it was the maiden name of my gggf Samuel's 2nd wife Margaret.

To try to keep it short; what I found funny was the amount of other people who entered the same day from Arbroath who listed the same John Ruxton as a cousin. There are 19 people with ten different surnames. This of course will keep me busy for a good while tracing all the names and naturally I wonder if they are all related to the Ruxtons or if some are Christies with different surnames.

I would appreciate any input from folks as to weather they have seen surnames listed below in relationship to the Ruxton, Christie or possibly Bothwell families. Only one Couts looks like I have seen it recently; possibly when I researching burials.

The indiduals are as follows;
Peter Davidson~22
George Macintosh~24
John Couts ~ 30
Joseph & Sarah Meldrum and children~Aggie,Sarah,Lizzie,Lilly.
Ellen Stevenson 42 & daughter? Mary 22
Isabebella Forbes~32
Maggie Watt~18
Jane Eaton~19
Mary Anne & Joseph Meldrum 16 & 17
Maggie Bell~23 and lastly
Mary Buchan or Beechan ~21.

Thank you in advance for your comments and assistance! ~Sherri

Comment by Liz Loveland on March 9, 2010 at 9:55am

[Just to clarify: What I mean is that the death index only lists the first name that the paper listed - no mention of the middle name I'd previously known him by at all. If not for a volunteer lookup person in Scotland finding the article for me, I might never have realized that the death index listing was the same person!]

Comment by Liz Loveland on March 9, 2010 at 9:54am

Hi Lisa,
It's certainly possible that he could be listed with different names in different records. I have frequently seen people with such in my research in Scotland and elsewhere. My biggest Scottish brick wall is someone who went by one name throughout his life but when he died abruptly from an accident, he was listed with what I'd thought was his first name as his middle name in the article in the paper, and the death index only lists the same first name as the paper's. In addition to people sometimes mostly going by their middle name as per above, sometimes someone would just be known by a different name that, at least through the mists of time, doesn't seem to have any specific origin.

Definitely not saying it's for sure the same person - just that it could be, especially with the bride's name matching perfectly. But I'm also not sure how common her maiden name was in England at the time...

Comment by Lisa A. (Thamm) Spegal on March 9, 2010 at 9:47am

Betty,
In digging through the Cumbria Archives site I did see mention of settlement certificates (it wasn't Dalston though), but maybe there's something for Dalston in there too, I'm still wading through their catalogue. I haven't found session records as yet.

Comment by Lisa A. (Thamm) Spegal on March 9, 2010 at 9:41am

Hi Rosemary,
I didn't get the marriage info from anyone on rootschat, I'd gotten it some time ago, just found then image again, it's just the index image as someone on rootschat suggested, I haven't gotten anyone to actually look and see if there's a records with more info yet, nor have I gotten any films ordered myself. My situation makes that a bit tough, but I'm going to do my best to try.
Some years ago a gentleman was helping me with research in ENG. mainly Durham / Northumberland areas but he got me on the right trail and got me censuses and did some looking in church records for me as well.
Someone on rootschat mentioned the marriage was indexed in the IGI on familysearch, it's the same info as the index image I'm posting. A lady did some looking for me in Cumberland (also some years ago) and helped me with some of the info I now have.
I, too, saw the John with father Richard and it is something I plan to try to follow up on. I am not sure if John came to Dalston on his own, or with parents when younger, but if he came with parents I may be able to find some info on a possible Richard too!! That would be great. And John's son Robert (wife Ann Ruddick) named his son christened 1838 in Dalston Richard! Another James chr. 1833, and Isabella chr. 1835, all Dalston. The remaining children were born in Newcastle and Gateshead.
Cumbria archives didn't have much on any of the various spellings of Aikin in their catalogue search, but there is quite a bit for Dalston in there, so they might be of some help but I can't afford the price they ask for research. I need other options right now.

Comment by Rosemary Harris on March 9, 2010 at 12:53am

Hi Lisa
Are you absolutely possitive that the information you got on Rootschat is correct?
Could you ask the person who supplied said info for their sources?
Would it be worthwhile to look at the actual film of the parish register to see if there are extra notes in the margins on the marriage entry or christenings of the children. I see on the IGI that there are 4 christenings but you may have more.
There is a submitted entry on the IGI for a John born 1776 of Dalston, father Richard. This would also be worth following up if possible. I would suggest searching the Cumbria Archives site, Carlisle office and maybe even email them to see if there is a will for Richard Aikin or any others with that surname.

Comment by Koczar Koenig on March 8, 2010 at 7:08pm

;-)x

Comment by Lisa A. (Thamm) Spegal on March 8, 2010 at 6:56pm

Awww, it's ok Koczar, I know the feeling well myself. Some days are much better and more productive than others! I appreciate the help and advise, it's always most welcome!
Lisa

Comment by Koczar Koenig on March 8, 2010 at 3:31am

Sorry Lisa, I've been a little fuzzy of late...I am finding it hard to focus so sometime's don't see the wood for the tree's so to speak..lol..
There's me saying James when it's John....see ..not focusing.. :)

Comment by Lisa A. (Thamm) Spegal on March 8, 2010 at 12:53am

Liz again,
Sorry Liz, I only just found out about the link to SCT, so haven't done much research in that respect as yet. As for records I have on him, all I have is the marriage record info., and his name from familysearch as father of Robert. and Dalston parish record transcriptions (Cumberland mail list) showing Robert baptised 1809 Novr 12, son of John Aikin of Dalston, dyer, and Mary his wife late Skelton. I have other children's baptisms too, as well as children of Robert & Anne (Ruddick). Any helpful ideas gladly accepted and appreciated!!

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