Sol family in northern Europe

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Comment by Armando Framarini on November 29, 2009 at 7:35pm

By the way the 1926 book "A contribution to the...genealogy of the families named Sole, Solly, Soule, Sowle, Soulis..." is available for $6.99 on ebay for anyone researching these names.

Comment by Louise Walsh Throop on November 29, 2009 at 1:35am

You found the first son of Jan and Mayken Sol!! This man Johannes was a printer in Leiden, and the way I read the literature he died in a tragic house fire about 1618/9,probably in Leiderdorf next to Leiden....

The family of Jan and Mayken (Labis/Labus) Sol were:
Geertude bap. 1590
Johannes bap. 1591
Sara bap 1593
Maria bap. 1596
Johanna bap. 1597
Pieter (twin?) bap. 1599
Susanna (twin?) bap. 1599
Gorg/George?? b. ca 1601??
another son ?? b. ca 1603??

I am looking for proof of the last son, George, who left Leiden 1620. Is there some easy way to look for more records on the witness in the marriage license: Emanuel Rijpa????Is this a Dutch or French or German surname?

thanks for your help.....

Comment by Armando Framarini on November 28, 2009 at 3:55pm

Is this your Jan?
Groom Johannes Sol Haerlem Leyden letterzetter
Bride Aeltgen Jacobs Leyden

Place Leiden
Date of license 02-01-1616


Remarks Getuigen bruidegom: Emanuel Rijpa bekende - Getuigen bruid: Janneken Coenraedts moeder -

Comment by Louise Walsh Throop on November 28, 2009 at 2:15pm

Oops! the birth records I have found for 1591-9 are from Haarlem, not Leiden, but do mention the father Jan Sol is from 'Brussel' I am assuming this is the same as modern Brussels???

Comment by Louise Walsh Throop on November 28, 2009 at 2:09pm

Thanks! I am having trouble finding the website CBG.nl when I google it, I get websites about cbg.nl, ie number of servers etc. Sigh! maybe my aol account can not access the website cbg.nl??

I am also aware the Sol family I seek is probably living in Belgium (now!) about 1590 as the Leiden birth records 1591-99 state the father Jan Sol is from 'Brussel' So I am assuming Jan Sol was a Protestant who fled north after the assassination of William of Orange in 1584. His wife was Mayken/Mary Labis/Labus....and I suppose their marriage record would be in 'Brussel'....in Brabant??

Any ideas on how to locate their marriage record ca 1590 would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Comment by Armando Framarini on November 28, 2009 at 12:45pm

Some copies can be order over the internet from CBG.nl, I think these will be of interest to you and there are more!

Sol FROM NOORD BRABANT
Naam: Sol

Plaats: Noord Brabant
Bron: T0124. Jaar / pagina: 1985
Gens Nostra. Maandblad der Nederlandse Genealogische Vereniging.

Bron: T0127. Jaar / pagina: 1986
Genealogisch Tijdschrift voor Oost-Brabant.

Sollie FROM LIEDEN
Naam: Sollie

Plaats: Leiden
Bron: T0122. Jaar / pagina: 1985-1986
Genealogische Bijdragen Leiden en Omgeving. Uitgave van de afdeling Rijnland van de Nederlandse Genealogische Vereniging.


Solie FROM LIEDEN has to to do with Joly family
Naam: Solie
Plaats: Leiden
Bron: 0723. Jaar / pagina: XI
Kwartierstatenboek. Uitgave van de Genealogische Vereniging Prometheus van de Technische Hogeschool Delft. Delft, 1978-heden. N.B. 723 A = Deel I, herziene uitgave 1991. 723 B = Deel II, herziene uitgave 1992.

Comment by Louise Walsh Throop on November 28, 2009 at 10:53am

Thanks for your comments. I can read German, which helps with Dutch....but I do not know Dutch....

The articles on SOL at CBG.nl sound interesting: can you help me get email copies of these articles? Please? I have microfilms of the index to the early records in Haarlem.....I don't know if these Sol records are in CBG.nl

Would appreciate help locating living persons with the Sol surname.....the Y-DNA test is the only test I trust to show a relationship to the family of Soule in North America......since George Soule left Leiden and Haarlem in 1620.

Many thanks!

Comment by Armando Framarini on November 28, 2009 at 6:19am

Also consider the variant spellings of Zoll or Zol which have been associated with the Sol name.
Muschart heraldry collection has the following arms
ZOLL
Codering(en) volgens Muschart bij de naam Zoll, van
53I: Twee leeuwen
(2 lions)

Comment by Armando Framarini on November 28, 2009 at 5:59am

Also from CBG.nl you can order online if you understand dutch.
a picture of this Sol wax seal can be ordered for around 7 euros
Sol
Wapen: drie gebladerde eikels, elk met twee bladeren en de steel omlaag.
Helm: het schild gedekt door een kroon met vijf bladeren.
Materiaal: lak.
Kleur: rood.
Vorm: ovaal.

Wapenvoerder: Sol
Bron: 1


Bron 1:
Zegels CBG, CB-I-2079.


Afbeelding: Sol01


They also have several written articles on a couple of Sol families, one being from North Brabant.

Comment by Armando Framarini on November 28, 2009 at 5:52am

from CBG.nl the have the famous MUSCHART heraldry collection on microfilm. It is a collection of index cards with description of coat of arms, sometimes a rare drawing when something was hard to describe, where the arms were seen, and often the arms bearer's name or family with additional genealogical notes.
(There is a second and DIFFERENT Muschart Heraldry collection in South Africa's Bureau of Heraldry which may contain additional information!)

The Central Bureau of Genealogie does not have this collection on line, but offers the following film code and partial description of the arms in dutch.

SOL
Codering(en) volgens Muschart bij de naam Sol
88A: Monogram, letters door of naast elkaar
(a shield with the letter more likely "S" on it)

van SOL
Codering(en) volgens Muschart bij de naam Sol, van
12H: Gevierendeeld: 1+4 palen (inclusief vairpalen
(quartered arms)

SOLL
Codering(en) volgens Muschart bij de naam Soll
19IJ:
(? interesting)

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