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Who are your Dutch ancestors?
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Permalink Reply by Gloria Pressnall on
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Surnames are Medendorp and Vanderschaaf. Medendorps seem to have come from Groningen. I have a John Medendorp, born in the 1920's came here in 1857, settled in Lafayette, Indiana. I would like to know if he is related to the Medendorps who settled in Michigan and if so how?
Vanderschaaf: Bob or Robert Vanderschaaf was in the 1855 census near Sheboygan, Wisconsin, was in Lafayette, Indiana by 1860. Was in 1870 census of Lafayette, Tippecanoe county. Wife Gezina died in 1872, buried in Springvale Cemetery in Lafayette. Would like to know where they came from in the Netherlands, also when did Bob die and where buried. -
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Permalink Reply by Henk van Kampen on
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Gloria,
Possibly these are your Vanderschaaf ancestors (from Genlias):
Rikkert Jans van der Schaaf, 25, born Westernieland, Eenrum, carpenter, son of Jan Emes van der Schaaf, carpenter, and Anna Rikkerts Kast;
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Gezina Stuivinga, 24, born Eenrum, daughter of Klaas Cornelis Stuivinga, farmer, and Julia Johanna Uilkens
married 18 November 1841 in Eenrum, prov. Groningen.
The name Medendorp is indeed mostly found in Groningen. -
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That could be. Bob (Robert) Vanderschaaf was a carpenter according to the census. He and wife Gezina did have a daughter named Julia, (perhaps named for her grandmother?) Do you have a year for this marriage?
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18 November 1841. Rikkert was born on 22 September 1816 in Eenrum (his birth act is on Alle Groningers).
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Not only a daughter Julia but also a daughter Anna who married a Medendorp. So the dates pretty much fit and the naming pattern fits.
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Permalink Reply by Richard A. Hayes on
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Hi Henk,
I have added the County of Origin to all of my Direct Ancestors that are listed on my website at
www.angelfire.com/ga4/myhayes_family/ . I have 131 individuals from the Netherlands that I amn related to.
Are you related to any of them?
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Hi Richard,
No, I don't recognize any of the names. Maybe some of the other group members are related? -
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Permalink Reply by Christine Kay Olsen-Needham on
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Hi! I have alot of Dutch in my family. Most came to the New York and New Jersey area. Here is a list of names and where they come from and where they settled:
MOURITZ- Not sure where they come from, but settled in Fort Orange, Albany, NY and also Ulster, NY
HENDRICKS- Not sure where they originated but settled in Fort Orange, Albany & Ulster, NY
SWARTWOUT- Came from Amsterdam, Noord-Holland and settled in Hurley, Ulster, NY
VAN NESTE- Unsure of origins but settled in Somerset Co, NJ
KORTRICHT- Unsure of origins but settled in Rochester, Ulster, NY
VAN MIDDLESWARDT- Came from Utrecht, Utrecht, NED and settled in Brooklyn, Kings, NY
COOBES- Unsure of origin but settled in Rensselaerwyck, NY
OOTHOUT- Unsure of origins but settled in Rensselaerwyck, NY
BOGAERT- Came from Utrecht, Utrecht, NED and settled in New Amsterdam, NY
BRADT- Came from Amsterdam, Noord-Holland and settled in Hurley, Ulster, NY
DECKER- Unsure of origin but settled in Wantage, Sussex, NJ
RAPALJE- Unsure of origins but settled in Fort Orange, Albany & Brooklyn, Kings, NY -
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Permalink Reply by John Winner on
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Well here is a list of my Dutch ancestors:
Michiel Jansen (Vreeland) emmigrated on the ship "Rensselaerwyck" in 1636
Cornelis Maessen (van Buren) in New Amsterdam by 1631
Joris Janszen Rapalje in New Amsterdam by 1623 (actually born in the Spanish Netherlands) m. Catalyntje Trico
Jan (Johannes) Arianse Sip b. 24 May 1662 New Amsterdam, father was Claas Arianse Sip
Hendrick Jansen Spier marriage banns 14 September 1652 New Amsterdam, to Magdaleen Hans van Swol
Arent Laurensen Toers b. Holland (as far as I know), bur. 8 January 1673/4 Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey
Roelof Cornelisen (van Houten) imm. on the ship "Rensselaerwyck" 1637
Juriaen Tomassen (van Ripen) emmigrated ont the "Spotted Cow" April 1663
Cornelis Van Voorst b. abt. 1580 Utrecht, Netherlands
Gerrit Gerritse (van Wagenen) imm. on the dhip "Faith" 23 December 1660 to New Amsterdam
Jacob Walings (van Winkle) 1624 lived on one of the Company-Bouweries on Manhattan Island started by the Dutch West India Company
Pieter Winne bap. 14 April 1609 St. Bavon's (St. Baaf's) Ghent, Flanders, Belgium (was Netherlands at the time)
That is just a short list of early commers from the Netherlands. If any one id related I would be glad to share info, mine is about 95% sourced
Also related to Peter Tallman, actually born abt. 1622 in Germany but appears in a lot of early New Amsterdam court records -
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I don't have much info on Juriaen Thomassen. What I have is:
1664 - He was part of a syndicate which secures the Acquackanock Patent. He did not settle there permanently. Source: Edward Van Winkle, Recording Secretary, Year Book of the Holland Society of New York: 1915 Bergen Book Vol. III (New York: Holland Society of New York, 1915), page 18; digital images, Google Books (books.google.com : downloaded 4 August 2008.)
bet. 1664 and 1667 - He aquired a plot in the town of Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey. It was plot number 161 in the 1660 survey of Bergen and Buyten Tyun. Source: Edward Van Winkle, Recording Secretary, Year Book of the Holland Society of New York: 1915 Bergen Book Vol. III (New York: Holland Society of New York, 1915), page 18; digital images, Google Books (books.google.com : downloaded 4 August 2008.)
8 May 1667 - Marriage banns published in Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey. His spouse to be was Reyckje Hermans. Source: Edward Van Winkle, Recording Secretary, Year Book of the Holland Society of New york: 1914 Bergen Book Vol. II (New York: Holland Society of New York, 1914), page 57; digital images, Google Books (books.google.com : downloaded 19 February 2009.)
25 May 1667 - Marriage to Reyckje Hermans in Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey. Source: Edward Van Winkle, Recording Secretary, Year Book of the Holland Society of New york: 1914 Bergen Book Vol. II (New York: Holland Society of New York, 1914), page 57; digital images, Google Books (books.google.com : downloaded 19 February 2009.)
1671 - Received land both within the stockade and among the Out Gardens in the will of Guert Coerten. Source: Edward Van Winkle, Recording Secretary, Year Book of the Holland Society of New York: 1915 Bergen Book Vol. III (New York: Holland Society of New York, 1915), page 19; digital images, Google Books (books.google.com : downloaded 4 August 2008.)
12 Sept 1695 - Burial in Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey. 26th in the church and 71st with the pall. Source: Edward Van Winkle, Recording Secretary, Year Book of the Holland Society of New York: 1915 Bergen Book Vol. III (New York: Holland Society of New York, 1915), page 29; digital images, Google Books (books.google.com : downloaded 4 August 2008.)
I have no information on his wife other than the marriage banns and marriage itself, and that her parents were apperantly Harmen Coerten and Aertje Gerrits
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Permalink Reply by Madehlinne on
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Hi, John!
I think we have a SIP relatives in common!
I have Maritje Arianse Sip, born 19 Oct. 1659 in Nieuw Amsterdam, Nieuw Netherlands, and Jan Adrianse Sip, born 24 May 1662, Nieuw Amsterdam, Nieuw Netherlands, both as children of ADRIAN Sip and Grietje Wareents Van Schonevelt--both born in the Netherlands--who married on 4 Feb. 1656 in Nieuw Amsterdfam, Nieuw Netherlands.
Maritje married Seba Epkese Banta on 6 Nov. 1678 at the Dutch Reformed Church in Bergen Co., NJ. They had 10 children.
The only difference I see is the name of their father: I have Adrian and you have Claas. But I believe this is the SAME person.
Please contact me--I'd love to hear from you!
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My Jan Arianse Sip (sometimes called Johannes) married Joanna Idens van Voorst 23 APR 1684 in New York, New York. The marriage is recorded as: Met attestatie Van Bergen. Johannes Adriaenszen Sips, j. m. en Johanna Idens Van de Voorst, j. d. 23 April. [1684] (Trans: Married with certificate from Bergen. Johannes Adriaenszen Sips, unmarried man and Johanna Idens Van de Voorst, unmarried woman 23 April [1684]) Source: Liz DuBois, "Records of the Reformed Dutch Church in New Amsterdam/New York - Marriages," database, Lorine McGinnis Schulze, Olive Tree Genealogy (http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/church/: accessed 18 December 2009), ; citing The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record published 1890 and 1940.
Also thier bans were published April 22 1684 Bergen with a certificate to New York. Source: Edward Van Winkle, Recording Secretary, Year Book of the Holland Society of New york: 1914 Bergen Book Vol. II (New York: Holland Society of New York, 1914), page 62; digital images, Google Books (books.google.com : downloaded 19 February 2008.
I believe he is the son of Claas Arianse and that the father of Claas was named Arien or Arie
I have Jan (Johannes) Arianse Sip born 24 May 1662 in New York/Nieuw Amsterdam. Source: Charles H. Winfield, History of the County of Hudson, New Jersey, from its earliest settlement to the present time (New York: Kennard & Hay Stationery M'fg. and Printing Co., 1874), page 524
I have as siblings of Jan Arianse (his father given as Claas Ariense Sip) as:
Henricus m. Annetje Bayard Nov 22 1691
Antje m. Symon Jacobse van Winkle 15 Dec 1675
Maritje m. Sibi Opdyke 13 Oct 1678
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